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I've come late to this. I've only an indirect interest in Kilravock and more of an interest in the origins de Ros family, in particular the origins of their moniker as the Roses of Geddes. My wife and I did visit Kilravock when it was open for afternooin teas and tours a good few years ago, when still in the hands of the Rose family albeit via a trust, so I was able to go around the house and photograph various paintings therein. As I recall Teen Ranch was operating in the grounds ("a  Christian Youth Outdoor Activity centre for teenagers" - still going).

It might be regarded as the ancestral home of Clan Rose but it's not the Rose's original home. The de Ros family was given the lands of Geddes by King William the Lion in 1174. By 1295 the incumbent de Ros had sold Wester Geddes and had acquired Kilravock through marriage. Cawdor Castle was built much much later on the lands of Wester Geddes. Easter Geddes was sold to Macintosh who had had Rait in 1165 (not the later ones who built today's Geddes House - they came along centuries later). Easter Geddes as a place name still exists although not as extensive as it once was; Wester Geddes exists as Cawdor and surrounding bibs and bobs, with at least one farm hinting at its original name.

I'd've liked to have gone through the Cawdor Charters in Edinburgh to weed out mentions of Wester Geddes. I know the Bundle numbers but I don't know Latin nor could I cope with Scottish Secretary Hand....

Restalrig Churchyard burial register has this:
14 Mar 1827 : "Robertson : Interred in the centre of James Hunter's Esq Tomb Mrs Juliet Parish Robertson, wife of William Robertson, Esq., aged 63 years, Mortcloth £1-1-, Safe £1-15-0"
James Hunter was a prominent banker in Ayr (married to Sarah Ballantine who is buried there too).

What can I infer from the wording "Interred in the centre of..."? The Robertsons and Hunters don't appear to be related. But William Robertson had been assistant-secretary at the Bank of Scotland in Edinburgh until 1806 (before he moved to Glasgow), so banking is a common factor.

It looks as though as a couple of years later her husband was buried there too.
22 May 1829 : "Robertson : Interred in J Hunter's tomb William Robertson Edinburgh, aged 61 years, Mort Cloth £1-1-, Safe rent 6 wks £1-4-0"

I'm trying to identify William Robertson's parentage. His wife was Juliet Parish dau of a very prominent merchant in Hamburg. In 1806 she lived at Summerhall thus: Mrs Juliet Robertson, Summerhall; no record of hubby.

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You seem to have got to grips with this family but were you aware that they also appear in the Catholic records?  A "Census of the Congregation" or "Status Animarum" for The Annunciation RC church in Portsoy in 1822 lists their family's birth and baptism dates - and every baptism date significantly differs from those in the Fordyce OPR - see Scotlands People's RC records under 'Other Events'. I have therefore concluded they were baptised twice. Isabella's later 1823 baptism is in the Annunciation records too - under RC Baptisms.

My 3xgtgdfather John Geddes was the Clerk at that time at The Annunciation. So both families would have known each other and both families turn up in RC and Established Church records to various extents (indeed he's probably the witness to your Catherine Geddes in 1819). His family is listed in like manner to yours. His daughters are also listed in the "Confermandi" records as being confirmed at Banff 15-11-1819 but yours aren't.

A new chapel was opened 13-12-1829. John Geddes was a subscriber and well as an Alexander Geddes; I don't see your family in the List of Subscribers. Subscriptions were opened in 1828 by which time it would have been under the Stuart surname.

Finding where my John Geddes came from has been a right trial, probably sucessful due to my identification of fellow subscriber Alexander Geddes, but I have failed abysmally to establish a connection to your George Geddes (who is variously described by his children as a general labourer, a feuar, a farm overseer, an agricultural labourer - and maybe there are other job descriptions you know of).

Maybe the Catholic records will throw up something that helps identify Catherine Sutherland (I see that another Catherine Sutherland was in the Preshome congregation and an 1807 death for someone of that name is recorded there [just saying!]).

Lastly my own prediction of her birth is 1790 (1812-22=1790 : 1730-40=1790) which is close to yours. Maybe you can build a picture of all Sutherlands known to be in Sandend and see where there are gaps your Catherine might fit? And a shufti at the Kirk Session around 1790 might establish whether she was illeg and escaped baptism.

If you've got any insight on the Geddes side I'd be interested. Happy hunting!

Thanks for responding. Having two in 1678 and two in 1680 clearly implies there were two John Chisolms in Inverness at the same time. There is one recorded marriage, namely 27-2-1677 Kilmorack John Chissolm & Anne Fraser and he could be one of them. 1681's Donald could be his but could be the other one's.

I'm hoping that someone has researched these particular Chisholms and has something to say about what happened to them.

Looking for information about Donald CHISOLME who was baptised 21 Jul 1681 in Inverness, son of Jon CHISOLME, in particular whether he might be (or might not be) the Donald CHISM or CHISHOLM who was in Fordyce, Banffshire, where he married Elspet RICHARDSON on 26 May 1713 and had just two known children in Boyndie parish Banffshire.