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Lincolnshire Lookup Requests / Re: 1841/1851 Census Look-Up - CRABTREE in Belton/Crowle
« on: Wednesday 13 September 06 18:47 BST (UK)  »
Hi Barbara

Nice to hear from you again.

I don't have Elizabeth Knipe's (Hunt) exact date of death but can tell you it was in the March quarter of 1873 and she was 28 years old. Robert wasn't single too long afterwards as he married Betsey Howlett on 13 May 1874.

I can also give you Elizabeth's marriage details:

8 August 1864 - Parish Church, Flixborough
Robert Knipe - 26 - Bach - Labourer - Residence: Whitton - f: James Knipe, Occ: Lab
married
Elizabeth Hunt - 21 - Spin - no occ - Residence: Flixborough - f: George Hunt - Occ: Lab
Witnesses: Charles Pickersgill and James Blackbourn
Charles was Robert's future brother in law and James was his cousin.

I noticed on some earlier postings about Thomas that he was the son of Thomas and Mary but there weren't any marriages in Belton listed on the IGI. I have the Belton Parish Church of All Saints transcription booklet and I can tell you that Thomas Crabtree married Mary Saxon (of Crowle) on 5 December 1780. Later a widowed Thomas Crabtree married Anne Saunderson on 25 May 1795. So the burial in 1792 for Mary Crabtree that was given is a strong contender and the 1841 census is most likely Thomas and his second wife.

I also have the baptism book so if you would like Thomas and Mary's other children let me know.

All the best
Janda

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Lincolnshire Lookup Requests / Re: 1841/1851 Census Look-Up - CRABTREE in Belton/Crowle
« on: Monday 11 September 06 22:40 BST (UK)  »
Hi Barbara

I am descended from Robert Knipe and his second wife Betsey's (nee Howlett) daughter Beatrice Louisa. But since Robert and Elizabeth had 4 children before she died I decided to have a look at the Hunt family. I have not managed to find George's baptism/parents or his marriage to Frances but know he was born in Luddington, Lincs around 1809. Do you have that information? I have found George, Frances and family in the 1841/51/61 census and Frances as a widow in 1881. I know besides Elizabeth their other children were Sarah, Frances, Mary, George, Thomas and I have found Thomas later as an adult.

Best wishes.
Janda

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Lincolnshire Lookup Requests / Re: 1841/1851 Census Look-Up - Crabtree in Belton/Crowle
« on: Monday 11 September 06 13:30 BST (UK)  »
Hi Chota

My 2xgtgrandfather Robert Knipe's first wife was called Elizabeth Hunt, born Flixborough circa 1844, daughter of George and Frances Hunt.

I have read your interest in Thomas Crabtree and I am aware he is the father of Frances above so I have some further census information for you.

1841 Whitgift
Thomas Crabtree b 1786
Sarah Crabtree b 1786
Sarah Dodds (dau) b 1811

1851 Whitgift
Thomas Crabtree
Sarah Crabtree
Sarah Dodds
Frances Hunt (gddau) age 14 born Gunhouse

Frances is the daughter of George and Frances and is living with her parents in the 1841 census

1841 Gunhouse
George Hunt - 30 - Ag Lab
Frances Hunt - 25
Sarah Hunt - 8
Frances - 4

Thomas is still around in 1861 living with granddaughter Frances again, however this time she is married. And Elizabeth is also there.

1861 Whitgift
Whitaker Burton - 25 - Shoemaker b Whitgift
Frances Burton - 23 - Shoemaker's wife b Gunhouse
Walter Burton - 1 - Shoemaker's son b Whitgift
Elizabeth Hunt - Vis - 18 - Dressmaker  b Flixboro
This is squashed in but I think it says Thomas Burton - son - b Whitgift
Thomas Crabtree - Vis - Wid - 74 -   Lab - b Belton

You will note that in the 1881 census where Frances Hunt is with the Sykes there is a girl called Mary Frances Burton as the niece, I believe this is the daughter of Whitaker and Frances above. Also I think the Ann Sykes married to John is Frances' sister.

Hope that all makes sense and helps you out.

All the best
Janda

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Lincolnshire Lookup Requests / Re: 1841/1851 Census Look-Up - Crabtree in Belton/Crowle
« on: Monday 11 September 06 13:27 BST (UK)  »
Hi Chota

My 2xgtgrandfather Robert Knipe's first wife was called Elizabeth Hunt, born Flixborough circa 1844, daughter of George and Frances Hunt.

I have read your interest in Thomas Crabtree and I am aware he is the father of Frances above so I have some further census information for you.

1841 Whitgift
Thomas Crabtree b 1786
Sarah Crabtree b 1786
Sarah Dodds (dau) b 1811

1851 Whitgift
Thomas Crabtree
Sarah Crabtree
Sarah Dodds
Frances Hunt (gddau) age 14 born Gunhouse

Frances is the daughter of George and Frances and is living with her parents in the 1841 census

1841 Gunhouse
George Hunt - 30 - Ag Lab
Frances Hunt - 25
Sarah Hunt - 8
Frances - 4

Thomas is still around in 1861 living with granddaughter Frances again, however this time she is married. And Elizabeth is also there.

1861 Whitgift
Whitaker Burton - 25 - Shoemaker b Whitgift
Frances Burton - 23 - Shoemaker's wife b Gunhouse
Walter Burton - 1 - Shoemaker's son b Whitgift
Elizabeth Hunt - Vis - 18 - Dressmaker  b Flixboro
This is squashed in but I think it says Thomas Burton - son - b Whitgift
Thomas Crabtree - Vis - Wid - 74 -   Lab - b Belton

You will note that in the 1881 census where Frances Hunt is with the Sykes there is a girl called Mary Frances Burton as the niece, I believe this is the daughter of Whitaker and Frances above. Also I think the Ann Sykes married to John is Frances' sister.

Hope that all makes sense and helps you out.

All the best
Janda

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