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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Wishful Thinking?
« on: Friday 06 February 26 18:35 GMT (UK)  »
unless you have attached Charles, his parents and grandparents plus his descendants into your tree you won’t be able to see if there are any matches…

you will need to do this and wait for thrulines to update then check again. if it comes up with several matches then you might (just might be onto something) if it still says 0 matches then it’s unlikely but thulines is a bit hit and miss but a good place to start. If there is one, hopefully its Sarah’s descendant, look at her shared matches with you, sort them in relation to her order. there are usually a few, hopefully they some will have trees you can check and then go through verifying for correctness. Some of mine have 2 or more pages, even at this level.

if you have managed to get 1 or more match on thrulines for Charles, you are halfway there… now check Charles’s parents and grandparents and look for shared matches on thrulines. If Charles is the father of both girls then you should have some matches.. if you have 0 returning for any of Charles’s ancestors then you are unlikely to be related to Charles.

This is a bit rough and ready but a good place to start. Note thrulines don’t show all matches, it’s only when you start working through shared matches and matches of matches that you can unearth more.. and this can reveal relationships but you have to verify as you go along as Ancestry can be throw some false positives and shared ancestors suggestions are not always incorrect.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Wishful Thinking?
« on: Friday 06 February 26 16:16 GMT (UK)  »
surely, as they are half sisters sharing the same mothers that would show a blood link in Family Historian.  Now the link that 10cM link is possibly a maternal like via the shared mother. It doesn’t mean they share the same father. Do you have a sub to Ancestry protool? you might be lucky enough to work out if the link is from the mother or possibly a shared father.

The only proof you have that Charles is a possible father of Sarah is from her marriage cert… unfortunately that isn’t definitive proof. perhaps create a tree for Charle’s descendants and see i’d you can find a shared match from that approach.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Is this DNA result worth pursuing?
« on: Tuesday 03 February 26 17:58 GMT (UK)  »
just to add to biggles explanation of how to use protools, when I look at the shared matches list, I find it helpful to sort them in order of closest relative to my selected match, quite often someone in the family has asked close relatives to all take tests for some reason, then check who has the most complete tree, you might find how you connect to this group of matches this way.  It can also overcome some matches that just give their initials or  a nickname but are the son/ daughter brother or sister of your match.

you might find it helpful to transcribe how they match each other onto an excel sheet so you don’t lose this info. Biggles and I both have rootsmagic and that allows me to enter the dna matches and it sorts them too.  I already had a large tree, which has proved helpful sorting the matches.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Is this DNA result worth pursuing?
« on: Monday 02 February 26 17:31 GMT (UK)  »
personally, I have had great success using shared matches (ancestry protools upgrade)  even down to 6th cousin level… ok it doesn’t enhance my tree much other than spreading the branches very wide but going this far does confirm shared x grandparents.  one branch started in the village ( well as far as I can with a paper trail) I was born my line stayed put, another went to Canada and another went to Australia and it’s surprising how much dna we have in common.. I believe my earliest forefather came from north Wales but the name is Morgan in the 17c , so who know where exactly 🤷‍♀️

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: DNA Test (2)
« on: Friday 09 January 26 13:46 GMT (UK)  »
sorry didn’t see the post yesterday but yeah it’s a good call for anyone just starting to try and get to grips with matches.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: DNA Test (2)
« on: Friday 09 January 26 12:40 GMT (UK)  »
once you look and get to grips with your matches, you might want to invest in a month or two pro tools add-on. You will be able to see who else your matches match with, this helps when there are limited or no trees of someone who is matching quite close and infuriating that you can’t see where as their tree is possibly all private or just one or two people.  I have found it really useful.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ancestry Thrulines
« on: Wednesday 26 November 25 15:51 GMT (UK)  »
All very nice and pretty but they don't include all the dna matches that we identify but they don't, and worse yet they include all the nonsense ones that they identify and we can't reject.

I have yet to receive the new version and quite disappointed. I would prefer they fix the evaluation to allow me to reject  peoples dubious tree matches which are obviously wrong.  Personally I don’t think AI  should be part of family history when there are so many people believing in Ancestry’s claim “just enter a name….”.

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The Common Room / Re: Government Find a Will Service
« on: Wednesday 05 November 25 16:36 GMT (UK)  »
all I can say is thank goodness I have the wills in my direct line already! Most were bought before the price drop when digitised but I won’t be able to afford anything after the 17th!

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Custom Clustering from Ancestry
« on: Sunday 26 October 25 08:01 GMT (UK)  »
I am getting frustrated with how many shared (maternal/paternal or unassigned) matches I am getting and Ancestry removing confirm your match beyond 4th cousin… I have so many I can confirm which are 4th x1r or 2r which I have to mark up as distant on Anc..
I have managed to verify my lines back to beyond 4th grandparents which is good but my distant and wider matches are a right mixed bunch! ok if they come from the same area, I accept there’s  a possibly of meeting and getting friendly but not when I get one verified paternal match who never left the UK and the rest are maternal coming from the US  🤣  Trying to tell myself they are false positives.

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