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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: can you find in 1901
« on: Sunday 01 December 24 21:25 GMT (UK)  »
the original post was looking for Thomas and James his grandson.
we did find them, but not the woman Thomas married. i have no idea where she came from.

Isacc was the Jewish name that James had when he was part of that faith in Hongkong

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The Common Room / Re: old maps
« on: Sunday 10 November 24 02:25 GMT (UK)  »
thank you

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: can you find in 1901
« on: Sunday 10 November 24 02:23 GMT (UK)  »
In the well-tended Jewish Cemetery in Hong Kong there stands an imposing
stone, decorated with wreaths, ribbons and garlands, dedicated to James Henry
OXBERRY [ID:I2579], born in Blaydon, Newcastle upon Tyne, 6 March
1871, died 19 December 1925.   
The Hebrew inscription on the stone reads:
“the memorial stone of the tomb of a perfect and upright man who feared
God and avoided evil ... Isaac Oxberry, who departed for his eternal home
on the 3rd day of Tevet and his days were ... years”9
An obituary in the Hong Kong Telegraph10, dated Monday, 21 February 1925,
describes him as the Proprietor of the Palace Hotel, Kowloon.  It goes on to
relate that Mr. OXBERRY was a native of Yorkshire and, as a young man, had
been a member of the services.  He later joined the staff of the Hong Kong
Hotel and had been proprietor of the Palace Hotel for the past eight years.  He
was a very keen “Buffalo”11 - he had attained the highest rank - and also a
Freemason.  He was also an active supporter of many sporting organisations
on the island.  The funeral at the Jewish Cemetery was conducted by R.I.
ELIAS, assisted by Mr. D.S. GUBBAY, and, among the chief mourners, were
Messrs I.L. and H. GOLDENBURG, E. ABRAHAMS and N. MOSES.  They
may well have been surprised by the departure from Jewish ritual that followed
its conclusion, when, we are told, a Mr. G. SHERRIF conducted a Royal
Antediluvian Order of Buffaloes service, with the members lined up round the
grave.  We have found a probable birth certificate in March Quarter, 1872:
OXBERRY, James, Gateshead, 10a 826, a year later than the date given on the
stone.  The following look the most promising matches in the 1881 and 1891
censuses:
1881
OXBERRY, Thomas, Head, Married, 41, Glass Bottle Blower, Harwent Hill,
Durham 
OXBERRY, Hannah, Wife, Married, 42, York
OXBERRY, Mary Ann, Daughter, Single, 16, Dressmaker, York
OXBERRY, George, Son, Single, 13, Scholar, Blaydon, Durham 
OXBERRY, Thomas, Son, Single, 11, Scholar Blaydon
OXBERRY, James, Son, Single, 9, Scholar, Blaydon
RG number: RG11 Piece: 4967 Folio: 143 Page: 109 
35 Adolphus St, Dawdon, County: Durham
1891
OXBERRY, Thomas, Head, Married, 51, Glass Bottle Maker, Durham,
Harvent Hill 
OXBERRY, Hannah, Wife, Married, 52, York, Yorkshire 
OXBERRY, James, Son, Single, 19, Glass Bottle Maker, Durham,
Blaydon On Tyne 
OXBERRY, Thos Wm, Grandson, 8, Scholar, Whitwood, Yorkshire 
RG number: RG12 Piece: 3763 Folio: 110 Page: 20 
Address: 50, Cambridge Street, Castleford, County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
We have not located him in the returns of 1901, by which time he may have
already been in Hong Kong.

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Staffordshire / Re: Looking for Information on a Robert Oxberry (Oxburry) from 1757
« on: Sunday 10 November 24 02:06 GMT (UK)  »
from what i found years ago, and was given by an Oxberry researcher.
Robert was as far back as we got. there might be more records online now though if you can find them.
Robert was a potter that was taken to the NE by one of the pottery companies owners who was starting a new business in the area.
i do have quite a lot on the Oxberry family.
But apart from knowing of Thomas 1822, i didnt follow that line.
If the James mentioned is James Frederick, the son of Robert. i have his second wifes maiden name as Hayoss.
i Have more on this line. mainly through his first wife Jane.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: can you find in 1901
« on: Sunday 03 November 24 05:36 GMT (UK)  »
Perhaps you would be interested to see where Thomas and Hannah Oxberry and family were living in 1881.

Their address is 35 Adolphus Street in Dawdon which is part of Seaham. Seaham (or Seaham Harbour) was founded by Charles William Stewart, 3rd Marquess of Londonderry and many of the streets in Seaham have names relating to his family, his descendants and their associates. Adolphus Street was named for his son Lord Adolphus Vane-Tempest. (I was born in a street named after a later Londonderry's racehorse which won the St. Leger in 1921 at 50:1)

Here is a link to the 1897 25 inch OS map of the relevant area, zoomed in to show the bottom (ie east) end of Adolphus Street, with the word Adolphus in the margin:

https://tinyurl.com/y2bu3d9z

Judging by the enumerator's route, number 35 was probably off the map a little to the west.

If you track down the left margin of the map past Viceroy Street, the Allotment Gardens, and the two railways that cross each other you will see the label Swine Lodge (in the margin) Bank on the South Hetton railway that is running from the SW to the docks. From that position go due east to the coast and you will see Seaham Bottle Works, also known at one time as the Londonderry Bottle Works and owned by John Candlish (see his WP page here: https://tinyurl.com/ms7tpmk7).  Indeed if you look at the small group of houses just to the west of the bottleworks you'll see that one of the streets is named Candlish Terrace.

The Candlish works was the only bottle works in Seaham, so this is undoubtedly where he worked. It would have been a walk of a little over half a mile from his home to the bottle works.
Thank you Alan.
this was very interesting. the Oxberry family started out at potters and as glass became more popular they were taken to Sunderland to work in the glassworks there. they then moved all around the north east as glassworks opened in new towns and citys. my g uncle was the last i know of who worked in the industry. this was in Castleford.
thanks again
Perth

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: can you find in 1901
« on: Sunday 03 November 24 05:23 GMT (UK)  »
I note that your post is dated 2008 but I have some info on Thomas Oxberry b:1840 at Haverton Hill, baptised at Billingham, Co Durham and who moved to York with his parents William Oxberry & Elizabeth Jordan. He married Hannah Burnett nee Benson 05 Nov 1859 at St Mary's, Castlegate, York as "Thomas Oxberry Jorden". They had 6 known children. Hannah was buried on 24 Dec 1891 at Castleford and Thomas remarried to Jane Fletcher nee Goodall in 1896. Hannah's death is registered under "Hannah Oiberry". Jane's death was registered Jun qtr 1910, York.

Thomas William Oxberry born 10 Sep 1882 was the illegitimate son of Elizabeth Oxberry. Elizabeth married Harry Greenwood in 1884 Pontefract so perhaps Thomas William was not welcomed by his step father hence living in York with his grandparents in 1891.
Thomas William possibly married Emily Bruce 1900 York but there is confusion. On the 1901 Census a "Thomas Oxberry" appears living with his grandfather in York as a 'postman' but with an incorrect birth place of York and a status of 'single'. There is a second record in Sheffield of a "Thomas W Oxberry" declared age 18 and 'married' living at 4 Horner Road and also a 'postman'. He is a boarder.
RG13/4355/130/38/225.

George Oxberry (1867-1935) enumerated as "Oxbery" in 1901 at Dringhouses, York:
RG13/4444/19/3/145

James Oxberry (1872-1925). Enlisted in West Yorks Regiment in 1892. Regiment Number 3120. Possibly serving abroad hence missing in 1901 but further research is needed via his regimantal papers and the Regiment's whereabouts. There is a suitable death for him in 1925 Hong Kong and a Passenger list for a 'James Henry Oxberry" aged 52 departing Liverpool on 09 Jun 1923 SS Sarpedon. He is declared the 'Proprietor of the N E Hotel, Castleford'.

You probably have all of this by now.
Hi Robert
sorry for the late reply. i dont get on here very often these days.
James Oxberry led a very different life after he left the services. He settled in Hong Kong, married a Japanese/Jewish woman and became pretty famous.
https://jhshk.org/community/the-jewish-cemetery/burial-list/oxberry-james-henry/
My great aunt remembered his wife coming to see the family after the end of the 2nd WW.
Sadly that was all she could remember. There are documents that show she was in the UK in Nov 1945.
i did a lot of research on this back in 2008 ish and most of it slips my mind now. there are some things still available online about him.
i have an article on his funeral from the hong kong times somewhere. if i find it i will post it.
thank you for taking an interest in my post
regards
Perth

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The Common Room / old maps
« on: Wednesday 18 September 24 09:16 BST (UK)  »
Hi All
i just went to the old maps website and saw they had closed to the public.
Is there another place to go to now?
Specifically West Yorkshire maps
thank you

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The Lighter Side / Re: New series next week on the Beeb of Who Do You Think You Are?
« on: Friday 15 October 21 08:54 BST (UK)  »
I've not watched for a few series, but caught up with this today. His reaction when he read the plaque in westminster was the same as i had watching it. One of the best episodes I've seen.

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Armed Forces / Re: Age
« on: Monday 21 December 20 13:52 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you

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