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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Lowther's in Hull
« on: Sunday 27 December 15 18:20 GMT (UK)  »
Likely marriage for Alice A

MArriage
Ap/May/Jun 1933
Sculcoates
Ref 9d 539
Alice A Lowther / Harry Thompson

Death
Dec 1970
Hull
Ref 2a 637
Alice Agnes Thompson
age 59
dob 28 Sept 1911

I can see one birth in Oct/Nov/Dec 1933 in Sculcoates for a Thompson with mums maiden name Lowther - may well be a child of this marriage. Cant post more, as may still be alive.

Thank you Liz, It's the live ones I am trying to contact as I can't find any living offspring of my aunts?

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) Lookup Requests / births deaths marraiges of Lowthers
« on: Thursday 17 December 15 10:08 GMT (UK)  »
My grandfather was Tom Galloway Lowther b: 1888: my grandmother was Alice Elizabeth Bell b: 1889
Children were:
Tom Lowther b: 1915, Alice Lowther b: 1911, Doris Lowther b: 1912, Patricia Lowther b: 1922, Violet Lowther b: 1923, Martha Lowther b: ? All were born in Sculcoates, Hull.

I have been unable to trace any descendants of any of my aunts and uncles, or even if they had children, my cousins?

I really would like to get in touch with my cousins or even their children..

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Lowther's in Hull
« on: Thursday 17 December 15 10:03 GMT (UK)  »
My grandfather was Tom Galloway Lowther b: 1888: my grandmother was Alice Elizabeth Bell b: 1889
Children were:
Tom Lowther b: 1915, Alice Lowther b: 1911, Doris Lowther b: 1912, Patricia Lowther b: 1922, Violet Lowther b: 1923, Martha Lowther b: ? All were born in Sculcoates, Hull.

I have been unable to trace any descendants of any of my aunts and uncles, or even if they had children, my cousins?

I really would like to get in touch with my cousins or even their children..

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Cumberland / Thornthwaite/Crosthwaite/Lowther
« on: Tuesday 29 April 14 11:46 BST (UK)  »
My 6th GtGrandfather John Lowther, Children Jeremiah b1702 and daughter Dorothy b1704 b.Greystoke, Cumberland, England, United Kingdom.
Supposedly from Thornthwaite/Crosthwaite, Keswick but i can't find any record of them after Greystoke.

Any help please. John

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Northumberland / Re: Edward Straughan and Margaret Anderson
« on: Saturday 19 April 14 21:27 BST (UK)  »
Hello Twiggy, Did you send it?

Best wishes John

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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: 1841 Census Northumberland - AINSLEY
« on: Saturday 19 April 14 21:14 BST (UK)  »
Picking up on this thread with some interest, there's some points that need remarking.  The Jane and James (1830 & 1832 bapts) in Wooler are of course AINSLIEs.  At this period, my experience is that the AINSLIEs (with clear Scots ancestry) were starting to guard the name quite carefully, unlike the AYNSLEYs and AINSLEYs who often swapped names in the same family and from day to day it seems! It's entirely possible that the ...LIE spelling was *only* adopted for the baptism - to prove Scots ancestry so to speak - but without further evidence all remains unclear.

The other thing to be born  in mind is that there were more flavours of Presbyterianism in that part of Northumberland, than there were sheep - at least it seems so - Wooler for instance had several varieties of Presbyterian Church in one small town! Because of this, people travelled quite some distance to get the precise flavour of religion they wanted, so while North Sunderland is some 14 miles by road from Wooler, its at least conceivable that a family might have travelled there for special occasions like a baptism especially if there was a family connection with the area.

Now turning to the James AINSLEY in Wooler workhouse in 1841: he my have been a resident from any one of 45 parishes and townships in the Glendale Poor Law Union (http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Glendale/) - or possibly waiting on a removal order!  So there is not too much reliance to be placed on this record without further data - although he does look like a suitable candidate, and the later James's apparent reluctance to say where he came from offers another clue, since respectable people didn't come from the workhouse!. 

When looking for the Wooler baptised James, you should also not neglect the James AINSLIE of the same age listed as being in Norham, Durham in the 1841 with his family (but no Jane) - Norham, on the banks of the Tweed, was of course an exclave of Co. Durham  at that time and there are A*N*SL*'s (several spellings!) in Norham and Ford to the south at the time and a bit later on.

Looking at the 1851 James AINSLEY, tailor's apprentice, he appears in the 1861 married to Margaret and giving a birthplace as Newcastle, but in 1871 he's still with Margaret (and the same children - so its him!) but now having been born Wooler, NBL.  In 1881 & 1891 he's back to coming from Newcastle...sigh! (And he has a typical Ancestry mis-transcription of AMSLEY - i must have corrected hundreds of them!)

None of which helps much with Jane.  At this stage you really need to see the entry for her marriage to get any further: its entirely possible you'll have a witness entry as well as - hopefully - her father.  Do you have a clue as to which parish she was married in - there are a lot of them in Tynemouth district!  If not, its the certificate or nothing I'm afraid...

If you do find out more please let me know - these guys aren't on my database (60,000 AINSLEY related items!) and it would help to know more - equally if you'd like to let me know about Jane's descendants I can create a "treelet" for them which will hopefully one day extend further back.

(as a minor aside - remember that censuses were help in April normally - so the probability is close to 70% that someone aged 10 in the 1851 census was born in 1840 - NOT 1841!  So on principle, start by subtracting 1 from the birth year given by the transcribers...!)

hugh

Hi, I have a James Aynsley among others in my tree. born 1851 Horncliffe, Norham, Northumberland. son of john Aynsley b 1815 my 3rd great grandfather.
Do you have these,

John Lowther

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Northumberland / Re: Lookup please Edward Straughan 1841 census
« on: Friday 18 April 14 19:30 BST (UK)  »
Hello Alan, (Percy), If your still on rootschat Edward Straughan was my 3xgrandfather. get in touch with me and we can cpmpare..


Edward Straughan possibly born March qtr Alnwick 1839.
Shown 1881 census as age 39 born Rock, Northumberland which is in the Alnwick registration district.

In that census he is living at Palmers Ville, Longbenton I would be interested to see also if he is living in susbsequent census in the same area.

Alan NZ

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Northumberland / Re: Holy Island
« on: Monday 14 April 14 11:27 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks,

The father is Edward Straughan and his wife is Margaret Anderson, supposedly pub landlords of the Iron Rails Inn, on the island. (from the White's directory 1847)
I have Edwards parents Robert Straughan and Eleanor, also a son; George who became a Tailor. if I can give you any info don't hesitate to ask.

jacklowther@gmail.com

John

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Cumberland / Re: Joseph Forster of Bewcastle c1722
« on: Saturday 18 January 14 14:59 GMT (UK)  »
I am researching the Forsters/Foresters/Forresters/Fosters of the Bewcastle area.  I am hoping someone may be able to help with providing a birth date and parents of Joseph Forster born c 1722.  Joseph lived at Oakshaw, Bewcastle and married Elizabeth Hunter in 1774 (he was a widower).  He was buried at Bewcastle in 1784 aged 62.  Elizabeth died at Oakshaw in 1822 aged 69.

here's hoping!!!!
133. FORSTER:In loving memory of Robert, beloved husband of Anne Forster, of Roanstrees, who died June 5th. 1915, aged 41
years.
239. CALVERT:In memory of Hannah, wife of John Calvert. of Birch Bush, Lanercost, who died August 28th. 1883, aged 57 years.
Also of the above John Calvert, who died atBirch Bush, Decr. 16th. 1889, aged 74 years.Also in loving memory of Nicholas Forster,
grandson of the above and dearly beloved son of John and Martha Calvert, who died at Birch Bush, July 16th. 1929, aged 21
years.[See also Mon. No.239].
241. CALVERT:In loving memory of John Calvert, of Birk Bush, who died 28th. Sep.1941, aged 81 years. Also Martha, wife of the
above, who died at Birk Bush, 20Sep. 1954, aged 88 years. Also Nicholas Forster, son of the above, who died 16 July 1929, aged21
years.[see also Mon.No.239].
248. FORSTER:Here lies the body of Ann, wife to Edward Forster of Roanstrees, who died Jan. 17 1783, aged 22.
268. FORSTER:In memory of John Forster, of Holeofline, who died Decr. 23 1830, aged 73 years. Also of Margret, his daughter,
who died March 13th. 1809, aged 7. Also of Joseph, his son, who died Augt. 8th. 1838, aged 32 years. Also of Jane, wife of the above
John Forster, who died April 20th. 1847, aged 88 years. Also of James Forster, their eldest son,who died at Knowe Head, May 11th.
1880, aged 84 years.
268. FORSTER:In memory of John Forster, of Holeofline, who died Decr. 23 1830, aged 73 years. Also of Margret, his daughter,
who died March 13th. 1809, aged 7. Also of Joseph, his son, who died Augt. 8th. 1838, aged 32 years. Also of Jane, wife of the above
John Forster, who died April 20th. 1847, aged 88 years. Also of James Forster, their eldest son,who died at Knowe Head, May 11th.
1880, aged 84 years.
268. FORSTER:In memory of John Forster, of Holeofline, who died Decr. 23 1830, aged 73 years. Also of Margret, his daughter,
who died March 13th. 1809, aged 7. Also of Joseph, his son, who died Augt. 8th. 1838, aged 32 years. Also of Jane, wife of the above
John Forster, who died April 20th. 1847, aged 88 years. Also of James Forster, their eldest son,who died at Knowe Head, May 11th.
1880, aged 84 years.
268. FORSTER:In memory of John Forster, of Holeofline, who died Decr. 23 1830, aged 73 years. Also of Margret, his daughter,
who died March 13th. 1809, aged 7. Also of Joseph, his son, who died Augt. 8th. 1838, aged 32 years. Also of Jane, wife of the above
John Forster, who died April 20th. 1847, aged 88 years. Also of James Forster, their eldest son,who died at Knowe Head, May 11th.
1880, aged 84 years.
333. FORSTER:In loving memory of a dear husband, Joseph Forster, who died at Crookburn, 21st. August 1971, aged 65 years. At
Rest. Also Jean dear wife of the above who died 14th . January 1998, aged 87 years.
397. FORSTER:In loving memory of William, beloved husband of Mary Elizabeth Forster, died at White Beck, Bewcastle, 17 June
1949, aged 83 years. Also of his wife, Mary Elizabeth, died 2 June1953, aged 78 years.
436. FORRESTER:Here lies the body of James Forrester, of Holmhead, who died Decr. the 4th.1748, aged 60 years.. Also Mary, his
wife, who died March the 15 1744, aged 59 years. Also Joseph Forster of Greensike, who died Sept. 2 1799, aged 65.
437. FORSTER:In memory of William Forster, who died at Whitebeck, July 2nd. 1861, aged 55 years. Also of Elizabeth, his
daughter, who died Augt.20th 1860, aged 16 years. Also of Mary, his wife, who died at Netherton, July 22nd.1886, aged 79 years.
Also of Barbara daughter of the above, who died at Netherton, August 31st.1889, aged 57 years. Alsoof John, son of the above, who
died at Guards Hill, Walton, Feby.14th. 1895,aged 60 years. Also of Joseph, son of the above, who died at Mill Cottage, October
5th.1904, aged 55 years. Also of James, son of the above, who died at Mill Cottage,Bewcastle, May 15th.1909, aged 70 years.
437. FORSTER:In memory of William Forster, who died at Whitebeck, July 2nd. 1861, aged 55 years. Also of Elizabeth, his
daughter, who died Augt.20th 1860, aged 16 years. Also of Mary, his wife, who died at Netherton, July 22nd.1886, aged 79 years.
Also of Barbara daughter of the above, who died at Netherton, August 31st.1889, aged 57 years. Alsoof John, son of the above, who
died at Guards Hill, Walton, Feby.14th. 1895,aged 60 years. Also of Joseph, son of the above, who died at Mill Cottage, October
5th.1904, aged 55 years. Also of James, son of the above, who died at Mill Cottage,Bewcastle, May 15th.1909, aged 70 years.



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