RootsChat.Com

Hi Astonian,

I look forward to any information you can give me about the RICE family in Measham.

I have gone back as far as Thomas RICE and his wife Hannah ADCOCK ... and have only one child of theirs, John RICE. 

I'm looking, naturally, to go as far back as I can ... and thought that the local cemetery would be of help there.  : )

The RICE family seems to have been involved in both farming and blacksmithing in Measham, so any information you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

You can email me directly if you like at hpjrt "at sign" flarenet.com.

Thanks

Mary

Hi Spendlove,

Thanks for the link.  I had visited that page and had found my RICE family back to about 1830 in the trade directories etc. 

I have also recorded the 1841 census information ... although I had forgotten about the 5 year rounding down of the ages!  I must make a note of that in my files. 

Unfortunately, I don't have a LDS family history centre very near me ... and the closest one is only open on Tuesday afternoons ... which aren't always convenient.  : (   

However, I'll have to see if I can order the Parish Record films at the next closest centre.

Mary

Hi Arranroots,

Nope ... I didn't check the indexes for LEIGH ... or LEE for that matter.   In the 1800's I got so used to the consistent spelling of LEA that I neglected to search for the variants!   

I'll give that a try ... *sigh*

Thanks Susan for checking on the NBI second edition.  *sigh*

One good thing about dead ends ... at least you don't have to check THEM again!


Hi Annie,

I don't think he would have emmigrated ... but I suppose he could have done.  Lord knows his great-grandson emmigrated to Canada ... and a surprising memory from my father's childhood ... he said that one year, when my dad was about 10 some people came to visit his grandfather Amos.  Now ... as a 10 year old these visitors weren't of any interest to him ... because they were all adults and this was a "children should be seen and not heard" sort of thing.  However, Dad felt sure that these visitors were relatives of his grandfather ... from the States. 

I have yet to discover which of the LEA family might have gone to the U.S. ... although there is at least one brother of Amos who is "unaccounted" for ... and I've been unsuccessful in finding him anywhere in the UK, Canada or the U.S. ... but that would have been mid to late 1800's.  *sigh*

Certainly the age of your NEHEMIAH LEE is right ... and I suspect that my NEHEMIAH was an Agricultural Labourer ... since his offspring William was ...

Interesting ... and worthy of some investigation.  I don't suppose this fellow was also on the 1840 census?

Thanks for any other ideas while I once again troll through the death indexes! 

Mary

Hi CU,

Thanks for the suggestion ... however,  I labouriously trolled through all of the Death Indexes from 1837 through and including all of 1841 [just in case] with no luck.  No Nehemiah Lea entries.  Nor were there any likely Ann Lea listings either.  *sigh*

This means that either he died prior to 1837 [or in 1837 but no one registered the death since the law was new etc.] ... or ... ?

With my luck, the two of them died in 1836 ... just before Civil Registration! 

Does anyone have access to the 2nd edition of the NBI?  I have the 1st edition, but he's not there. 

Not only am I in the 2% of Canada that doesn't have access to "high speed" internet ... but I'm also in an area where the LDS Family Research centre is open only on Tuesday mornings ... and this isn't often convenient for me to go there.  It's also quite a distance away from me.

Are there cd's that have all of the available parish records on it?  I couldn't find anything on the IGI but I don't think the IGI has all of the parish records for Gloucestershire ...

I'm at a loss to know how to proceed further.  Since his name was on actual Parish Record extracts, I "know" he existed ... but without being able to find out when he died ... I'm feeling like I made him up!  LOL

Any ideas?

Thanks

Mary

I concur with what others had to say.  There is a good chance that the mother just couldn't keep them. 

My husband's grandmother, Ivy, was in a similar position.  Her father died ... and her mother simply couldn't afford to keep the kids.  The older boys went into the Navy ... the older girls were already out of the house ... but Ivy was put into a Bernardo home ... and sent over to Canada where she was fortunate in her placement.  Some weren't nearly so lucky.

Ivy eventually reconnected to her siblings ... some in New Zealand ... some still in England ... but she never forgave her mother.  When one of her siblings informed her that their mother had died ... Ivy just didn't care.

Very sad ... but without the breadwinner, it was very hard to make ends meet.  I suspect that no mother relinquished her children without considerable angst ...

So ... perhaps it was better that your grandfather think his mother was dead.  That was preferrable to his knowing that she continued to live but didn't come and get him.

Good luck

Mary