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Scotland / Re: Mix up of names
« on: Friday 24 October 25 00:57 BST (UK)  »
Family Tree so far

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Scotland / Re: Mix up of names
« on: Friday 24 October 25 00:55 BST (UK)  »
Death of Eliza Jane (Mary Ann's mother)

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Scotland / Re: Mix up of names
« on: Friday 24 October 25 00:54 BST (UK)  »
Death of Mary Ann

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Scotland / Mix up of names
« on: Friday 24 October 25 00:53 BST (UK)  »
Hello all. I'm having a little trouble with one line of my tree. My 3rd Great grandmother was Mary Ann. On her marriage certificate, her maiden name is recorded as Givens. Tonight, I found her death certificate and it states her surname was Govan and records her mother and father as Govan too. Her mother, Eliza Jane also has the maiden name Govan. I found Eliza Jane's death certificate and it records her father as Michael Govan and mother Eliza Jane Rodger. I will post the certificates I have found but struggling to find much else. If anyone could help me find any information on the parents of Mary Ann - Thomas & Eliza Jane and further back I'd be most grateful. Thanks

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Maiden name?
« on: Thursday 23 October 25 16:49 BST (UK)  »
Hi all.

I'm not sure on the maiden name here for Eliza Jane? To me it looks like Govern or Gowan? Any thoughts? Thanks, Jamie.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Don't know where to start
« on: Saturday 18 October 25 00:02 BST (UK)  »

I think I’m with you, Gaffy. It seems a bit complex, doesn’t it.
Here is the parish record of the marriage of Catherine Mallaghan and James Owens. They have been recorded as James Jones and Catherine Mallon but all the other details are correct.
27th January 1874

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633206?locale=en#page/43/mode/1up

This Catherine has a mother Frances. The witness, John Mallaghan has the address Marquis Street.
This does not answer the puzzle about Susan Mallaghan.
Perhaps the two Catherines were cousins and their two fathers brothers.


Great find, I would never thought of looking under Mallon. It must be something like that, if not brothers, maybe cousins. 

OP, the ages and dates indicate that we may already be too far back to find any useful records, this may prove to be a brick wall. I can't see any marriage for Patrick and Susan, nor baptisms for daughters Catherine and Mary.  A couple of observations: (1) I noticed other Belfast Mal(l)aghans/Malligans on the go who were all sons of Henry (Edward, Thomas, Peter, Patrick) and who were all dealers or auctioneers or brokers, I wouldn't be surprised if related back in time; (2) a quick check of older ones with this surname in the 1901 Ireland Census shows a cluster in the Ballymena area and others pointing back to counties Tyrone and Londonderry, so Patrick and ancestors might have been blow ins to Belfast.

Thanks so much for all your help. Much appreciated.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Don't know where to start
« on: Friday 17 October 25 21:34 BST (UK)  »

Gaffy, check out the marriage record for Catherine in the opening post. :)


Sorry, I don't get it. Who is Thomas, how does he fit in to this?

Thomas is my Great Great grandfather, husband of Catherine.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Don't know where to start
« on: Friday 17 October 25 15:59 BST (UK)  »
Yes I did notice Catherine died in the poor house not sure where you live Mitchell Library Glasgow have records might be worth checking to see if Catherine applied for poor relief .There were several deaths for a Thomas McGuire unfortunately not showing mothers maiden name  ::)

Rosie

Yes, I'll get to the Mitchell Library soon to see what I can find. I did get the death certificates for the Thomas McGuires without maiden names but none seem to match him. I've also found a census record from 1901 showing (Francis) John McGuire aged 16 which would match up with my great grandfather. There's also a Sarah McGuire too. But no Thomas.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Don't know where to start
« on: Friday 17 October 25 13:57 BST (UK)  »
There is a death on Scotland's people could be a possibility
Catherine McGuire other name Mulligan 1899 St Rollox age 57  mothers maiden name Cosgrove

Rosie

Hi Rosie. It looks like you are correct. Here is the death certificate for Catherine. The names match and her mother's maiden name confirmed as Cosgrove. Thanks for your help.

Excellent always best to check certificates to confirm you have the right information I see husband Thomas is not down as deceased .Looks like they might have separated ?

Rosie

That could be a possibility. I see on Catherine's certificate it is showing as her passing away in the Glasgow Poorhouse. I am trying to find a death certificate for Thomas but not luck as of yet.

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