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Norfolk / Re: Griffin LAWS Sarah HEARN
« on: Monday 06 October 25 19:50 BST (UK)  »
In the last couple of weeks I have developed some ability to use RootsChat and appreciate the knowledgable and helpful volunteers who support it; a good knowledge of the villages south of Sandringham; touched on GEANET in passing; and got to to know a bit about Family Search trees; I regret (at least a little bit) leaving this topic.

The answer for me, good, bad or indifferent, is to go to LR1K-4LP in Family Search; Griffin LAWS 1772; and click my way up and down my direct maternal tree from 1942 (me) right back to my maternal EKA in 1520 - Felice HOLT M44Q-8GL, my mitochondrial DNA source. Thanks for your help and thoughtful comments on my ‘answer’ would be appreciated.
Alan

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Norfolk / Re: Griffin LAWS Sarah HEARN
« on: Saturday 04 October 25 20:23 BST (UK)  »
Thanks to Trish, Spelk and others who have contributed so positively to this question. It is very much appreciated. The 80/20 rule applies to genealogy as it does elsewhere; 20% who are able and experienced researchers, fading into the other 80%. My age puts me well into the 80% and a few hours of research glazes my eyes and starts the custard process in my brain. Regrettably I will not be delving deeply into original documents.

I use others peoples research freely but try to keep an open mind on conflicts such as this one and ask for help as necessary. WikiTree does offer a way to unequivocally identify profiles but dealing with this question made me appreciate FamilySearch does the same and has been doing it for much longer than WT and probably has a much larger database.

It will take some time to work through the whole string.
TRISH, you latest post suggests two William+Mary families, but surely they must be the same one ?. As for Raisbra, he has many spelling variations but this one seems preferred. I have an excellent photo of him from within our extended Australasian family. The thought that Griffin and Thomas could be one and the same is interesting and the evidence reasonable, but the confusion may have arisen because his father is Thomas.

WT allows FamilySearch as a source, so at the moment I feel much as though I’m simply copying these older profiles across from FS to WT.

Little wonder I prefer unequivocal Big-Y matches to arguable genealogy connections.

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Norfolk / Re: Griffin LAWS Sarah HEARN
« on: Friday 03 October 25 20:04 BST (UK)  »
Pleading guilty to posting on both boards plus private, but as a newby I’m still baffled on how to find my way around RootsChat; such as trying to flip between this board, BEGINNERS and similar PRIVATE posts. If I manage to find them all again it may be best to put them together in a text document ?.

I have learned some geography though and the LAWS, MOORE and BONE maybe HEARN(E) families lived in a circle of around 12k diameter centered on Grimston with Kings Lynn on the left edge. Other LAWS live round Norwich, and ‘never (seldom) the Twain shall meet’.

My maternal ancestors MOORE + BONE moved to Australia around 1856 (children born in Norfolk and NSW) so those lines are almost cast in bronze.

Finding the bronze to cast Option 1 is moore difficult !
I have elected to use WikiTree (Moore-100433) but in retrospect FamilySearch probably has a much larger database (Moore LR1K-336).

Yes - the link worked.
Whichever lady emerges as the proven wife, she is my mtDNA ancestral line.

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Norfolk / Re: Griffin LAWS Sarah HEARN
« on: Friday 03 October 25 07:38 BST (UK)  »
FamilySearch has two options for the parents of Mary Laws :1797-1890 (KGQ5-1MW)

Option 1 : Griffin LAWS 1771-1832 (LRIK-4LP) married Sarah HEARN : 1771-1830 (L29M-G6T) on 9 Jan 1797.
Griffin's parents were Thomas LAWS + Mary DAVEY. Sarah's were Richard HEARN(E) + Mary HARPER.

Option 2 : Thomas LAWS (MYS7-XR3) + Sarah unknown (MYS7-XR6)

I prefer the first option as it appeared elsewhere, but can anyone find other sources ?

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Mary (Laws) MOORE
« on: Thursday 02 October 25 04:18 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for your reply and the longer reply on more LAWS profiles you also sent. I regret I am no further ahead with using RootsChat, so I am still stuck in PRIVATE mode and in BEGINNER mode.
In my experience, the only unequivocal way to identify a person is in WikiTree, which gives each person a unique identifier, but I suspect Family Search does the same. If you can access WikiTree and enter Laws-1749 in the search box, my problem is that her parents are incorrect. Charles and Elizabeth (Laws-1750 and Horth-114) had a daughter Mary (actually Mary Ann; Laws-1749) but she married Robert Paraman, not William (Moore-100433). So I need a different Mary as the wife of Moore-100433. Her surname and parents unknown but Griffin and Sarah LAWS are possibilities ?.

William and Mary Moore had a daughter Elizabeth (Moore-73671) who was my GG grandmother and her grandson in Australia was Raisbra Moore Bone. Our family think Raisbra is the correct spelling, and has been handed down several generations but it has many variants on different web sites.

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Norfolk / Re: Griffin LAWS Sarah HEARN
« on: Thursday 25 September 25 06:45 BST (UK)  »
As EA69 and a RootsChat newby, a few days ago I asked a question about the wife of Charles LAWS. As a result of excellent work by people in this group, my focus has changed to Griffin and Sarah LAWS, Sarah being a much more likely prospect as my direct maternal line mitochondrial DNA ancestor.

My interest is therefore in establishing the BDM dates for Griffin and Sarah, the names of all their children and BDM dates if known. Can anyone confirm that a daughter Mary, about 1798-1882, married William MOORE and had a large family, and that one of their daughters, Elizabeth 1823-1914 (my GGgrandmother) married John BONE ?. John and Elizabeth emigrated to Armidale, NSW, Australia in about 1865 with a large family and their last few children were born there.

Some of these questions have been answered above, but as a very inexperienced genealogist, further help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Alan

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Norfolk / Re: Griffin LAWS Sarah HEARN
« on: Thursday 25 September 25 06:07 BST (UK)  »
To Finding Ancestors the best way to follow your male line ancestors is to test the Y chromosome with FamilyTreeDNA.com, but be warned, it can be a long slow waiting game. Autosomal DNA tests offered by most DTC (direct to consumer) companies can only test over a brief range of 3-5 birth events. YDNA reaches right back to Genetic Adam, but normally our interest is only since about 1400 when surnames gradually became commonplace.

Go to FamilyTreeDNA.com and start with the cheaper Y-37 STR test to see if you get any like name matches. If you do, you get into the ball park. However to get an unequivocal result, a potential terminal haplogroup and a good estimate of cousin distance, all the like name matches will need to do the more expensive Big-Y STR test. Paper trail links may be possible, but be prepared for a DNA link only. I have BigY 'cousins' in USA, Canada, Australia and NZ. The NZ matches are brother, 1c and 2c and I know then well; the Australian cousin is very close but no common ancestor yet; lack of Irish records makes a paper trail to the Noth Americans unlikely. Good luck.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Christopher Laws
« on: Monday 22 September 25 22:10 BST (UK)  »
WikiTree offers an opportunity to very accurately identify people, after which their biography can be improved by any members with appropriate knowledge. The original question was about CHARLES not Christopher LAWS. Apologies for the error - ‘senior moment’ is the best excuse I can offer.

So for any WikiTree users, the question can be expressed as ‘Did Laws-1750 marry HORTH-114’, source apparently ENGLAND MARRIAGES 1538-1973.
Downstream people are Mary Laws-1749 (my GGGgrandmother) married Moore-100433; her daughter Elizabeth Moore-73671 married John Bone-2487 and emigrated to NSW, Australia about 1865 with a large family.

On the subject of time wasting, in the few days since I joined RootsChat I have inadvertently created 2 profiles EA69 and ALAN69, with no prospect of merging them; I have chats under both names but can’t determine which one I’m accessing; I don’t know if I’m in public or private chat mode; and am continuously getting incorrect password messages to which I reset to exactly the same password each time. I don’t know if I can delete both profiles (and loose all associated chats) and start over. Thanks to all those who have contributed over this short period, but I may never find this chat again.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Christopher Laws
« on: Saturday 20 September 25 22:00 BST (UK)  »
Who was the wife of Christopher Laws, England, 1761-1841.
Please correct to CHARLES, not Christopher

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