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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Looking for my mother's-in law father John (or Jack) Hickisey, b. 1905 in London
« on: Sunday 07 September 25 22:26 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
Thanks all. Supposing the John Hickey who went to NZ on 22/5/1924 (maybe John Michael Hickey born 1/6/1905 in Mortlake, London) is my mother-in-law's father's name and by 20.9.1929 he was travelling under the name of John Hickisey (as per passenger list on Ulimaroa from Wellington to Sydney), that implies he changed his name between these 2 dates for some reason.
ChatGPT suggests a person travelling in 1929 would usually need a passport to travel from New Zealand to Australia.
I think worth us checking with NZ BDM if John officially changed his name.
Not sure if there was any likely way of obtaining a passport in the name of John Hickisey to travel from NZ to Australia without officially changing name (?)

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Looking for my mother's-in law father John (or Jack) Hickisey, b. 1905 in London
« on: Sunday 07 September 25 21:55 BST (UK)  »
Hi Milliepede,

That's interesting. Other families members believe he was a passenger on the boat to NZ, suggesting he would have been on the passenger list. We located the passenger list for the 22 May 1924 sailing from Southampton to Auckland and it refers to a Mr J Hickey, 18 years from the Irish Free State. My mother-in-law has a looseleaf booklet saying John was born in London in 1905, but raised in Ireland.

The above could tie in with the birth certificate of John Michael Hickey born on 1.6.1905 in Mortlake, London, whose mother was Catherine Hickey (nee McGrath) because McGrath is a family name.

Where did you find out that the first name of Mr J Hickey on the 22 May 1924 boat was John?

Many thanks

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Looking for my mother's-in law father John (or Jack) Hickisey, b. 1905 in London
« on: Friday 05 September 25 22:52 BST (UK)  »
Hi, thanks very much for the responses. A lot of it tallies with what the family believe, albeit a lot of new info here as well. The family have long suspected that the surname 'Hickisey' was made up as appears supported by the responses here. Does anyone know why the John 'Hickisey' appears likely to have changed his surname?

It is said within the family (although we don't have corroborating evidence) that John left the UK for New Zealand on a ship as a deckhand via Melbourne and perhaps jumped ship in Melbourne. It is thoguht that the the shipping company was looking for him and it is thought he may have changed his surname to 'Hickisey' at this point. Noting that one of the researchers has suggested that John's original name may well have been John Michael Hickey based on UK birth records born in Mortlake, London, is there any evidence of a John Hickey in shipping records on a ship to New Zealand via Melbourne prior to 20 September 1929 (eg in the years prior)?

(Prior to 20 September 1929 is referenced as one of the researchers has identified a John 'Hickesey' on a passenger list on the boat 'Ulimaro', which we have identified as travelling from Wellington to Sydney on that date - This tallies with family information that John was in Australia, then New Zealand, then went to Sydney (as there's a photo of John on the Sydney harbour bridge during construction) and after which he returned to New Zealand). Look forward to any further info, particularly regarding John's original surname and when, why and in what circumstances he changed it

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Looking for my mother's-in law father John (or Jack) Hickisey, b. 1905 in London
« on: Friday 05 September 25 10:11 BST (UK)  »
Hi Jonwarrn

Thanks for your reply and information.

I registered in GRO and included the information that was provided to obtain the birth certificate of John Michael Hickey.  It says No matching results found.

I included this information:

HICKEY, JOHN  MICHAEL     
Mother's Maiden Surname: MCGRATH
GRO Reference: 1905  S Quarter in RICHMOND   Volume 02A  Page 52




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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Looking for my mother's-in law father John (or Jack) Hickisey, b. 1905 in London
« on: Thursday 04 September 25 14:13 BST (UK)  »
John's Hickisey parents' names were
 father's name was Kingsley John Hickisey
mother's name was Kathleen (McGrath, maiden name) Hickisey

This information is from the marriage certificate.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Looking for my mother's-in law father John (or Jack) Hickisey, b. 1905 in London
« on: Thursday 04 September 25 12:04 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for your responses. The responses were useful and interesting.

His birth is a mystery to us. My mother-in-law does not have his dad's birth certificate. She has their parent's marriage certificate which states that his birth place was London. He indeed travelled to New Zealand somewhere (possibly) in 1929. He had 10 children; my mother-in law was the tenth in the family.

The information posted by  jonwarrn was probably related to him as he worked as a barman (although my mother-in - law did not hear the information in the newspaper before) and he was injured in 1943. He was in the home guard in New Zealand. As a result, he became a war pensioner.

He married in New Zealand to Caroline Ellen Maud HEALEY 1931 in New Zealand. That information was correct.

My mother -in-law and some of his siblings are researching his birth and the place where he lived prior to travelling to New Zealand. There is a possibility that he was born in Ireland as he married an Irish woman. They have all the information about her, but not about their dad.

As far as his surname is concerned, the spelling seems to be different. My mother's-in-law maiden name was Hickisey. Some of the things that are coming up have the spelling Hickesey. It might be a different person or some of her siblings think that he might have changed his name.

She would appreciate any more responses. Thanks

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Family History Beginners Board / Looking for my mother's-in law father John (or Jack) Hickisey, b. 1905 in London
« on: Wednesday 03 September 25 11:44 BST (UK)  »
Hello

My mother- in- law is researching her father John (or Jack) Hickisey, born in 01.06.1905 in London.

 She has a copy of 2 old photos of him which were possibly taken in around 1927. There are some numbers on the back of one of the photos: 501 R 20. Does anybody know what these numbers possibly mean?  Thanks.

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