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Hi Patricia
I see you are on line at the moment ... I was just about to post something to you on the site!    Sorry, I have been very remiss about responding to your various postings, all of which  have made for fascinating reading - thank you so much for all the info you have supplied and are still going to supply I'm sure!

In answer to one of your earlier queries re Elizabeth Wade (1817-1852) my tree shows that she married Robert Hesom and that their son, also Robert, married Ann Newbold and together they had 6 children - George, Walter, Newbold, Lilian, Owen and Georgina, who you were also querying. 

Yes I did know that Ida's twin was Horace but not all the other information about him, thanks for all that.  It sounds as if he was a very talented young man, what a shame he died so young.  I would love to know more about him.  What is the name of the school where he was Music Master?

Growing up I had no idea that Ida had had such a tragic life and suffered so many losses, although I did know about the two babies she lost.  I only ever saw her smiling, she was a very dear little person - my name for her was 'Danny' - I still picture her towards the end of her life, sitting at the window of her first floor apartment in Rondebosch (Cape Town) smiling down at me as I arrived to visit her.  Now, of course, I have so many questions to ask her ...!

Yes, I eventually remembered to have a look at St Leonard's Church, what a lovely little church it is and it sounds as if it looked that way at the time of Ida and Robert's marriage as well.  Fancy you being baptised there also. 

Did you receive the private mail I sent you last week? 

Looking forward to hearing from you again.  Till then, best regards, Rosie.

PS  I must remember to tell my cousins and other relatives about this site, they will be equally interested. 

Hi Marion & Ruth
Don't you just love this .... all the dots starting to connect up and becoming an historical picture!  Wonderful stuff!  Also quite addictive - I knew it would be!

Marion, did you see the message I posted to you on 23rd August?  Were your grandparents George and Isabella and were your dad's brothers and sisters Doris, Isobel, Dudley and Norman?  If so, then your dad and mine were first cousins, my dad was the son of Robert Hesom and Ida Bowen. 

Our great-grandfather was George Hesom (the one in the newspaper article I posted last week) who married Susannah Walker.  Our great-great-grandfather was Robert Hesom of Rugby and he married Elizabeth Wade, one of 10 Wade children - Ann, Alice, Jonathan, Mary, Robert, Joseph, Elizabeth, Catherine, Sophie and William Marston.  The following is an article I found in amongst my dad's family papers:

"Notes sent to Aunt Ann Hesom by Robert Large, collected during a cycling tour of Rugby"  (no date given)

William Marston was to be married to Betsy Kibworth but they both died unmarried.

Samual Arthur became a parson.  Buried in Yardley Church.

Alice came to South Africa.  Ancestor of all Wades, also Surtees.

Jonathan went to Australia left all his money to his cousin.  Was never heard of again and the banks amalgamated and no trace could be found so the money has disappeared.

Robert Bullivant was a tanner.  His daughter wanted to become Mrs Wm Wade, nothing came of it.

Your ancestor (Elizabeth) married Robert Hesom, a builder of Rugby.

Sophie was getting ready for the Church (her wedding).  The bells were ringing but changed to tolling when Edward was carried on a hurdle past the house.

The church register went back for many more years but what with bad Latin and the Parsons using the Register, no record of what happened.

The Wades, though appearing by name as far back as 1272 could not be connected up until Robert and one of the Brudenals, ancestors of Lord Cardigan, married two sisters in 1700.  Previous to 1495 it was Stonton.  The Brudenalles wanted to call it Brudenell.  In 1495 Robert Brudenall married Margaret Wyville, and that is where Stonton Wyville got its name.

In 1760 one of the Brudenells was created Baron Brudenell of Stonton Wyville, subsequently Lord Cardigan, leader of the Light Brigade in the Crimea.

Previous to 1820 the Hall near the church was three times as big as now and the seat of the Brudenell (Stonton) at least four times bigger than it is now and a thriving village.  He moved practically all Stonton to Deane Hall (Deen) and only left one third of the church.  He took the peal of bells to Deene on leaving, one bell of which is inscribed William Wade - Church Warden.

From 1834 all registrations of births and deaths and marriages came under Government control and recorded at Somerset House.  Previous to 1834 the records were kept by the Parsons; some neglected and some very good."

I have copied it exactly as I have it in front of me (spelling and all!) and there are some things I can't tie up, eg who was Samuel Arthur?  He doesn't appear as one of the Wade children, but maybe he was.

My dad had told us that Lord Cardigan (he of the Charge of the Light Brigade fame!) fitted in somehow, but will need to read the article again slowly to understand where and how he is connected, but it seems it is through marriage and not an ancestor.

My sketchy family tree goes back to two generations before Elizabeth Wade (Mrs Robert Hesom) dating back to about 1700.

Marion - the Aunt Ann mentioned above was our grandfathers' (George & Robert) sister.

I can see that a large piece of A2 paper would come in very handy right now, so that the family can spread out a little and become easier reading!

John (SW19 on this site) has given me the name of someone who is working on a Hesom family history, so I will get in touch with him in the next week or two and see what he has been able to find.

I have one more article to post, but need to get going now, so will have to save that for another time.

Until then, regards to all.  Rosie

Hi Peep, Marion and John,  I have unearthed two very interesting articles from some of my Dad's old family information papers - one about the original GT Hesom who arrived with the Wades and another about a Kennard from whom stem the Wades...  I will need a few moments than I have right now to type them out for you, but hopefully will get a chance sometime later on today - I can't wait to share them with you!  Cheers Rosie

Hello to all Hesom and related family searchers/researchers!  This is my first visit to this site, it wasn't here last time I did a Hesom search, so this is very exciting!  In reply to one of the enquiries about Robert and Ida Constance Hesom (nee Bowen) - they were my grandparents.  Robert was born in South Africa and he and Ida met when he was invited to ride behind Queen Victoria's carriage on the occasion of her Silver Jubilee.  I understand that they returned to South Africa in 1907 when my father, Bernard (their firstborn) was six months old.  They had two other surviving children out of five born to them, Leonie and Jack.  They lived a rather nomadic life stretching from Harrismith to Natal to the Kimberley diamond fields to Knysna and onward to  Northern Rhodesia. Robert died in 1948 in Luanshya, Northern Rhodesia and Ida in about 1968 in Cape Town.    I am in possession of a sketchy family tree which includes Wades, Arbuthnots and others that I would need to look up.  I also have a couple of early newspaper clippings about early Hesoms in the Pietermaritzburg area.  I would love to connect up with any of you who are distant relatives and exchange info!