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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Can't find grandfather's history anywhere
« on: Tuesday 12 August 25 12:46 BST (UK) »
Does the certificate show the place of birth?
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Can't find grandfather's history anywhere
« on: Tuesday 12 August 25 11:59 BST (UK) »
So sorry guys, so in all of this, what do I/ can I do to help this, bearing in mind I'm in Western Australia
What certificates should I get?
What certificates should I get?
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Can't find grandfather's history anywhere
« on: Monday 11 August 25 14:57 BST (UK) »Until Pburkat comes back and decides what to do re the certificates (sorry to mention that again) we are possibly wasting our time.
It is intriguing though. 😉
Hi everyone!
My apologies, I now live in western Australia, my grandfather theordore died when I was 7 and I only met him 3 times, after that I along with my dad never met that side of the family again
I cannot offer any insight to any other family member, meaning Nelly or Bertha, the Welsh of that time were fierce and my dad said you never dared ask their age or history, he didn't even know how old his father was.
It is only when theodore died and this german/Austrian birth certificate came out of the closet (literally) along with a German military helmet that we had any idea of the history.
My Nan paying a visit to Germany was so out of the norm it's not funny, this woman never ever left Wales, a holiday to her was 5 miles up the road and she never disclosed why she went.
Unfortunately she took the secrets to the grave to protect the family.
Can you receive these certificates online if I ordered them?
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Can't find grandfather's history anywhere
« on: Sunday 10 August 25 18:06 BST (UK) »My family history is very intriguing and I keep on turning up blanks.
Its a long story but I'll try keep it simple.
My dad who passed recently was Michael Burkat, his father was Theodore Arno or Arnold Burkat.
When Theodore passed away, a German or Austrian birth certificate was found, we don't know what was on it exactly but our surname Burkat wasn't there, it was something else
Burkat is a made up name apparently.
My dad's mum in her later years said that she would not tell us the name as to protect the family..
She never ever left Wales, she was devout to it, yet when Theodore died, she paid a visit to Germany, something she had never done before.
She then told the story of how Theodore was smuggled out of Europe with his brother Otto dressed as young girls, apparently their mother Nell or Nelly had to get them out as she had relations with a high ranking military official.
They came to the UK and Theodore lived in Wales and married J Sykes, he died in 1997
That's all we know about the history but our surname Burkat is false apparently and I'd love to know more.
Can anyone begin to find his history as I turn up a blank!
I presume you have seen the Death Certificate of Theodore (the one for whom they found a Birth Certificate for) and seen what was recorded and what information was given to the Registrar at Death?
If not and nobody kept a copy of that Death Certificate, you could apply for a Certified Full Copy Death Certificate from the Local Registrar (or from the General Register Office if the death occurred in England and Wales).
No I have not seen the death certificate, I was 8 years old when he died..
That side of the family we was estranged from.
Theodore died in Wales in 1997, that I know is a fact as my dad went to his funeral.
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Can't find grandfather's history anywhere
« on: Sunday 10 August 25 16:50 BST (UK) »
So there is no British record of a birth certificate for Theodore or Otto?
If there mum was Nelly and she was Dorotheas daughter, does that mean she could have been born in Germany? Had the two boys there and then come back to the UK with her British born mum, albeit from German parents?
I'm new to this so just trying to piece together what happened as it's all vague
If there mum was Nelly and she was Dorotheas daughter, does that mean she could have been born in Germany? Had the two boys there and then come back to the UK with her British born mum, albeit from German parents?
I'm new to this so just trying to piece together what happened as it's all vague
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Can't find grandfather's history anywhere
« on: Sunday 10 August 25 15:07 BST (UK) »Welcome to Rootschat
Theodore died 1997 in Wales & his birthdate is given as 29.3.1933
Thank you 🙂
I'd love to know where he was born and who his father was, we do not know
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Can't find grandfather's history anywhere
« on: Sunday 10 August 25 15:06 BST (UK) »The name Burkat appears to be Polish in origin.
Theodore married in 1958 - do you have this marriage certificate?
Also a possible for his mother, Nelly Burkat married Donald D H Thomas in 1949 - do you have this marriage certificate (there was a child likely born to this relationship in 1950).
We have no certificates at all, they were all taken when my grandfather died.
The Burkat surname was not on his birth certificate and it was not a UK certificate.
We're trying to work out what his surname was, along with his mother's.
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Family History Beginners Board / Can't find grandfather's history anywhere
« on: Saturday 09 August 25 16:52 BST (UK) »
My family history is very intriguing and I keep on turning up blanks.
Its a long story but I'll try keep it simple.
My dad who passed recently was Michael Burkat, his father was Theodore Arno or Arnold Burkat.
When Theodore passed away, a German or Austrian birth certificate was found, we don't know what was on it exactly but our surname Burkat wasn't there, it was something else
Burkat is a made up name apparently.
My dad's mum in her later years said that she would not tell us the name as to protect the family..
She never ever left Wales, she was devout to it, yet when Theodore died, she paid a visit to Germany, something she had never done before.
She then told the story of how Theodore was smuggled out of Europe with his brother Otto dressed as young girls, apparently their mother Nell or Nelly had to get them out as she had relations with a high ranking military official.
They came to the UK and Theodore lived in Wales and married J Sykes, he died in 1997
That's all we know about the history but our surname Burkat is false apparently and I'd love to know more.
Can anyone begin to find his history as I turn up a blank!
Its a long story but I'll try keep it simple.
My dad who passed recently was Michael Burkat, his father was Theodore Arno or Arnold Burkat.
When Theodore passed away, a German or Austrian birth certificate was found, we don't know what was on it exactly but our surname Burkat wasn't there, it was something else
Burkat is a made up name apparently.
My dad's mum in her later years said that she would not tell us the name as to protect the family..
She never ever left Wales, she was devout to it, yet when Theodore died, she paid a visit to Germany, something she had never done before.
She then told the story of how Theodore was smuggled out of Europe with his brother Otto dressed as young girls, apparently their mother Nell or Nelly had to get them out as she had relations with a high ranking military official.
They came to the UK and Theodore lived in Wales and married J Sykes, he died in 1997
That's all we know about the history but our surname Burkat is false apparently and I'd love to know more.
Can anyone begin to find his history as I turn up a blank!
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