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The Windosr I found (same as Mack looked up who also had cemetery details) - so the 59 is that a reference to the Welsh Regisment 8th Battalion?

Regiment, Corps etc: Welsh Regiment
Battalion/etc: 8th Battalion.
Surname: Jones
Christian Name: Windsor
Initials W
Born: Cardiff
Enlisted: Cardiff
Residence:
Rank: PRIVATE
Number 33759
Died Date 20/11/1917
Died How: Died
Theatre of War: Mesopotamia

Hi, yes the above was the soldier I found and first thought it was my Windsor - but I found this man's medal card that said he went out to Mesopotamia in 1915. Mine was only born 1899 so that would have made him 16 years of age so I decided this couldn't be him. There was another Windsor Jones in the Canton area same as my windsor but 9 years older and I think this is him - that is why I am now at a loss as to where to look.

 Here is a photo to help.

Does anything here sound familiar to anyone. I am researching the folllowing:

Generation 1 - lived in Cardiff largely. Ernest married Murial Hine.

Ernest Hine = Esther Jones (Hetty).

Ernest: b 1883/4, Stratford Upon Avon, Warwickshire.
Esther Jones b 1 June 1883.

The couple married and lived in cardiff.

Generation 2 - Parents of Ernest Hine

Ernest Hine's parents: Thomas Hine = Sarah Ann Smith.

Thomas: b 1855 Shottery, Warwickshire. Died, unknown.
Sarah Ann Smith baptized 12 June 1842, Shottery.
Married 1877 in Stratford Upon Avon.
Children: Fred b 1878, Ernest and Ella b 1880
About his wife Sarah Ann Smith.

Parents were William b in 1816 in Old Stratford and Mary (perhaps maiden name of smith) b 1814 in Old Stratford. Children Sarah Ann b 1842, John b 1840 and Thomas b 1844.
Children: Minnie 1863 and Ann 1862, to wife Ann ?

Generation 3 - Parent of Thomas Hine


William Hine = Sylvia Townley

William born or baptized 5 JUL 1829 in Halford (d 15 JAN 1892 in Shottery?)
Silvia Townley born or baptized 15 Mar 1835 in Pillerton Priors.
(Silvia's parents were James and Sarah - no other data)
Children
James Hine baptised in Holy Trinity 10, July 1864? , Shottery, d c.1892? ( married Lavinia Currell in Holy Trinity 25 April 1885)
Thomas Hine b 1855, Shottery.
Silvia b 1859 in Hampton Lucyd
William b 1857 in Hampton Lucyd

Generation 4 - Parents of William Hine -

A Thomas HIND baptized 1 July 1798 in Halford? Died 20 Jun 1867 in Halford.
In 1852? Thomas Hind married in Halford to Elizabeth (Furman, Farmer or Furmar or similar)

(** BAPTISM AND MARRIAGE is alleged to say HIND, in census it is HINE and children are HINE)

In 1841 census an Elizabeth b around 1801 to an Eliizabeth b 1801 (Ag labs) with a son Thomas aged 11 and a William.

1861 census lists an Elizabeth and Thomas Hine aged 62 and 60.

Definately the right family as the 1871 census lists Elizabeth as a Widow living with her son William and Sylvia (Generation 3) in shottery age 75.

Marriage document says THOMAS HIND had parents WILLIAM HIND and SARAH. Another researcher believes they had two childen, Thomas HIND b 1798 and Ann HIND b 1804

Looking for information on Susannah Page b 1843 in Rugby Warwick.

A puzzle of relationships.

Happy to share  if you need information on any of these:

Currently I have the following info (in summary):
 
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Isabelle Susanna Page b c1865 = Thomas Muckley.

Isabella was born in Middlesex. Thomas was born 1859 in Warwick.
(I have some census details of Thomas Muckley's ancestors)

Children were
            Elise Blanche,
            Thomas,
            Bertram,
            Violate Maud,
            Francis
            Reginal.
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It is known that (from census data).

1) Isabella Susanna lived with her grandparents John and Sarah Page in   
     1871 at the age of 5/6.
2) No knowledge of her father and no evidence found.
3) In 1881 she lives with Samuel Gumbley who married Susannah Page.
4) She Marries Thomas Muckley age 21 in 1886
5) In 1891 her family are living with a seperately registered family at the same
     address - Samuel and Susannah Gumbley
 

From the above is is assumed that Isabella had the surname Page and that Susannah is her mother (which could be linked to her middle name of the same).

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MYSTERY FATHER?

What do we know of  Susannah Page?
Other names appear to be Susanna and Susan.

She was born in c1843 in Rugby in Warwick. If isabella is her daughter she had her before she married Samuel in 1873.

She appeared to live in Warwick all her life yet Isabella was born in Middlesex.

In 1881 Samuel and Susannah have children:
     Eugenie May Gumbley age 5
     isabella Page age 15
     Samuel Gumbley age 21
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If Susannah's parents are John and Sarah (noted as her child Isabella's grandparents in the census) then there is no record of John and Sarah (in census data) of having a child called Sussannah or similar and they lived in Tysoe Warwickshire all their lives.

Can not find any evidence of Susannah being married to a son of John and Sarah in case these were her paternal grandparents?

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The only link with Middlesex, currently, is that John and Sarah had a son (John E) who married Elizabeth from St Lukes, Middlesex.

John E and Elizabeth had children born in Kenilworth in Middlesex (Ada, William and John). They lived there all their lives.

Interesting, another puzzle is that in 1871 the census describes James Franks as brother in law to John E Page. However, John E Page had only one recorded sister who did not marry James Franks at any point that is known.
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I have some dates to go with the above families and any help with this puzzle would be appreciated....