Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - sticksville

Pages: [1]
1
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1567 Plea rolls translation
« on: Tuesday 29 July 25 12:19 BST (UK)  »
Thank you both very much,  once again. Some fascinating details.

The Kitchingmans held lands in Carlton Husthwaite, Kilburn and Thirkleby in the C16 - all manors adjoining each other. This is the first reference to land in Tollerton, although it is only a few miles down the main road to York.

The earliest manorial records for Tollerton and Alne seem to be a survey of 1609-10 in the National Archives, quite a long time after this cause. There are some C16 probate records for Tollerton available online, including inventories,  if anyone stumbles on this:
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/search/results?keywordsplace=tollerton%2c%20yorkshire%2c%20england&keywordsplace_proximity=0&sourcecountry=great%20britain&eventyear=1568&eventyear_offset=40&sid=999

A John and Jane Fountaine mentioned but no Kitchingmans.

2
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1578 Plea Rolls Translation
« on: Monday 28 July 25 18:46 BST (UK)  »
That makes sense.

The Kitchingmans were involved in a huge number of cases in different Courts in the C16 and particularly C17. Although the sums/reputational risk involved could be considerable, you do wonder if it was worth the time, effort and expense?

I've read C.W. Brooks 'Pettyfoggers and Vipers of the Commonwealth' but still find the extent of litigation hard to get my head around


3
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / 1567 Plea rolls translation
« on: Monday 28 July 25 18:39 BST (UK)  »
I might be pushing my luck here with a third request for help in short order.

This cause from the National Archives/AALT runs over two images so would require more work (but also potentially be more interesting?):
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT5/Eliz/CP40no1252/aCP40no1252fronts/IMG_0238.htm

http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT5/Eliz/CP40no1252/aCP40no1252fronts/IMG_0239.htm

Robert Kytchinman, plaintiff vs Anthony Smyth of Tollerton, husbandman, and Elizabeth Fountain of Tolthorpe [Tholthorpe], widow, trespass close and taking.

My guess is that Robert is from Carlton Husthwaite, although I can't see that mentioned.

Is there a change of hand about three quarters of the way down? I do like the doodles to fill the page, do they have a technical name?

Any help will be much appreciated.


4
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1578 Plea Rolls Translation
« on: Monday 28 July 25 18:04 BST (UK)  »
Thank you very much.

On the basis of a whole two cases, non-appearance for debt seems to becoming a recurring theme in the Court of Common Pleas.

5
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / 1578 Plea Rolls Translation
« on: Monday 28 July 25 15:29 BST (UK)  »
I have another Plea Roll which I am struggling to read from National Archive/AALT (second cause on the page):

http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT5/Eliz/CP40no1353/bCP40no1353dorses/IMG_0748.htm

The plaintiff is Valentine Kychynman, yeoman of Carleton Husthwayte in Yorkshire and the defendant Thomas Sicklemore, Rector of Slalteburn, Master of Arts. From the Church of England database it appears that Thomas had previously been Rector of Kirby in Kirby in Cleveland.

I would be very grateful if anyone could help with this.

6
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1475 Plea Rolls Translation
« on: Thursday 24 July 25 10:44 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much for this. My first experience of the help available on this forum and a good one.

The extent of the debt is interesting. According to the National Archives currency calculator, 20 shillings was the equivalent of £3456 in 1470. This was enough to buy 6 horses but only 3 horses in 1480 - horse inflation must have been quite a thing, perhaps a result of the Wars of the Roses?




7
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / 1475 Plea Rolls Translation
« on: Tuesday 22 July 25 10:31 BST (UK)  »
I would be very grateful if someone could help with this Plea Rolls entry from the National Archives/AALT site.
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no853/aCP40no853fronts/IMG_0081.htm
It's the fifth entry from the top and concerns a debt owed by John Kytchynman of Keldholme in Yorkshire, capellanus (chaplain?, possibly of Keldholm Priory).
I thought I was doing quite well with early modern hands but this medieval script combined with Latin defeats me.



Pages: [1]