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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Starting out
« on: Thursday 19 June 25 19:59 BST (UK)  »
There's no father named on my birth certificate, both my parents and one grandparent have fathers listed on their certs but none are the biological father. I only know because of DNA. I don't follow surnames from paperwork, rumours or other trees.
I use dna and some traditional tree building techniques to identify target testers, to pick out the full and half relatives and prove whether paperwork is useful or useless.

Thats encouraging to know it could be possible then, Im a complete novice when it comes to tree building though, so its all a learning curve ;p

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Starting out
« on: Thursday 19 June 25 19:58 BST (UK)  »
Hi
If you know that the pub is no longer standing, do you perhaps know the name of the pub and/or its address or whatever district it was in Leeds ?
Rebel
Yeah its this one:- https://www.closedpubs.co.uk/yorkshire/leeds_ls2_yorkshirehussar.html

Originally it was called the Yorkshire Hussar, then the Tam O'Shanter and Finally Hoagys Bar before it closed in 2001?

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Starting out
« on: Thursday 19 June 25 14:50 BST (UK)  »
Taking a DNA yourself is the only way that you can be sure of your Parentage.

As you have an idea of who your Father was then a logical way forward would be to trace his lineage and try to identify if you have a half sibling or half siblings, as I stated in my last post, this has worked for me.

If you find any half siblings do approach them and eventually ask if they would be willing to take a DNA test.  If successful they are likely to share about 1800 cM with you.

If you cannot find any offspring of his or if they refuse to take a DNA test then look at his siblings and their children, or cousins of his who share the same Grandfather as you are likely to share.

Build a separate tree for your likely Father.

Birth Certificates can be falsified, my own has a Father listed but he was not my Biological Father.

I am having problems even finding him on ancestory.com The Names I have are Stewart Fry (possibly Stuart) and his father was called William (Bill) Fry. But I am unable to find a combination of them two people at all.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Starting out
« on: Thursday 19 June 25 08:41 BST (UK)  »
Hi, Is your father named on your full birth certificate.  If so that could start you off and you might be able to find his birth details.

Pheno

Sadly no he's not on the birth certificate, the only info I have on him (which possibly isnt even the truth) is that he was called Stewart/ Stuart Fry and his dad (Bill Fry) was a pub landlord in the 1970s.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Starting out
« on: Thursday 19 June 25 06:23 BST (UK)  »
Welcome to Rootshcat.
Rootschatters are a helpful bunch and are willing to help with advice.
I hope that you are not relying on the dna kit to answer your questions. The paper trail is important as it gives you names and dates etc.
Good luck with your search.
Jackie
PS I took a dna test to see if it could help with some brickwalls - it didn't; so I got my children to do one, but the brickwalls are still standing.
The problem I have is there is no paper trail, just a rough name, with a possible name of the dads father. So even starting out I am faced with a huge brickwall. :)

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Starting out
« on: Thursday 19 June 25 06:21 BST (UK)  »
Welcome to Rootschat
I wouldn't be too concerned about licence transfers and publicans initially and concentrate on the DNA results to narrow down and hopefully identify your paternal side. If you haven't really seen or used DNA results before it can be a bit daunting, getting to grips with the basic techniques (such as grouping matches), will be far more useful at the outset.
There's a lot of information in the dna board here and on other forums as well as options for search angels through the DNA Family Finders UK group on fb but a good general understanding of the techniques is always useful and allows you to work on your tree yourself whenever you wish.
Still waiting for the actual DNA kit to arrive, I am reading up on it quite a bit to try and get some understanding of the process. Thanks for the FB group suggestion.

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Family History Beginners Board / Starting out
« on: Saturday 14 June 25 10:15 BST (UK)  »
I am new to the board, Hi all.
So I have finally decided I want to try and learn about my paternal side of the family I have joined AncesteryDNA and am currently waiting for the dna kit. My problem is I am struggling to find information from my family, I only know a rough (possibly correct) name of my father - although I do know that he/or his father was a landlord of a pub in Leeds UK, are there any historical records that I could search of pub landlords?
The pub itself is no longer standing.

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