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Messages - Bruce Stephenson

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Devon / Re: Long shot...this time its Nancy Littlejohns (nee Gilbert)
« on: Tuesday 10 June 25 17:20 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for your help folks...

B :)

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Devon / Re: Searching for Milford Down, Devon. (Emanuel Littlejohns)
« on: Tuesday 03 June 25 21:42 BST (UK)  »
It certainly would be neat to unearth any distant English relatives. I have made contact with several in Australia and NZ...so yeah, it might help someone else one day?

B :)

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Devon / Re: Searching for Milford Down, Devon. (Emanuel Littlejohns)
« on: Tuesday 03 June 25 20:33 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Alan,

Yes, have all these articles already, but thank you very much for taking the time to help me. Its much appreciated.

Regards,

Bruce :)

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Devon / Long shot...this time its Nancy Littlejohns (nee Gilbert)
« on: Tuesday 03 June 25 13:01 BST (UK)  »
Hi All,
Don't know if anyone can help me, however in 1839, Nancy Littlejohn, and her 2 children look to be residing in the Parish of Beaworthy or Halwill. I am wondering if her parents, James and Elizabeth Gilbert might have lived in the area as their on-line info doesn't give locations, nor death certificates. At the time Nancy was most likely under Poor Relief with her 2 remaining children as her husband had been deported to Australia.
Does anyone have any connections to the family down there that might be reading this? Does parish archives exist as I would expect Nancy's name to crop up if they do as she was almost certainly receiving Poor Relief?
Regards,
Bruce

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Thanks Rosie and Osprey,
Emanual was the father and I have a lot of info on him, as he left an excellent paper-trail as a convict and prisoner.
Hannah was his daughter and would have only been around 13 or 14 when the very young James was conceived. I wonder (as the family would have been on Poor Relief), if Hannah would have been expected to go into service at an early age? (Almost certainly). With child labour, being taken advantage of wasnt uncommon.... Thing is, I simply dont know the story behind the child, so cannot surmise, but it would be nice to see if a death certificate was issued by the Admiralty as the transports themselves were officially contracted through the Admiralty and carried regular garrisons as guards.
Regards,
Bruce :)

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Hi to all you super-sleuths out there!,

Well, here’s a conundrum that some of you may be able to help with?

I am just tiding up the last details of a family history, which like all families, threw up one or two skeletons along the way! The family concerned is one of the Littlejohns family, formally from the Parish of Buckland Brewer in Devon, of which the husband, Emanual, was deported to Van Diemen’s Land for stealing a sheep.

After gaining his Ticket of Leave he applied to have his wife and children to be sent out under the governments “Free Passage Scheme,” in which they were successful. As the Assisted Passage Free-Settlers were sent on female convict ships (depending on space), it cut down the possible choices in the two-year timeframe I was working to considerably. Unfortunately, as many of you reading this will know, Free Settlers names never appeared on passenger manifests, thus making researching that much harder. What we do have however, is the surgeons’ records.

After scouring all the possible voyages, I found one voyage with 3 Littlejohn’s (Free Settlers) marked down as needing medical attention, one a Mrs Littlejohn, another a 17-year-old Hannah Littlejohn and an infant, James Littlejohn. I am more than sure that this is the correct family as there were 5 Convicts sent to Australia during the 1800’s with the name of Littlejohn/s, two of which were deported to NSW (the ship, the Navarino terminated its voyage in Hobart), the other 2 being listed as single on their convict records.

The reason for this post is that the toddler, James, was a big question mark to me as he never appears in any records nor past family trees etc. He was completely unknown to me and family…and here’s why….

James has no baptism records and was born out of wedlock, most likely to a very young Hannah (so the local curate might not have performed the ceremony if he violently objected anyway). James died on the voyage out to VDL, suffering from severe case worms and diarrhoea, dying on the evening of 24th December 1840.

As his name doesn’t appear on Emanual’s application to have his wife and children sent out (as he wouldn’t have known of the child’s existence), so far I have been able unable to locate any death certificates for the child.

Does anyone know how I could locate any death certificates, as the Admiralty must have kept records and may confirm my suspicions in terms of mother?

Cheers,
Bruce  :)

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Devon / Re: Searching for Milford Down, Devon. (Emanuel Littlejohns)
« on: Sunday 01 June 25 08:28 BST (UK)  »
Thats amazing people!

You dont know how much this means to me. I have just finished a 74 page history on this generation of the family and how the Littlejohns got established in both Australia and America.

I dont know how to thank you enough as I find getting access to some stuff quite difficult, but you have answered all my unanswered questions...with perhaps the biggest question for last..but thats another story and post....

Needless to say, you have all made my day....
Cheers,
B :)

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Devon / Re: Searching for Milford Down, Devon. (Emanuel Littlejohns)
« on: Sunday 01 June 25 07:24 BST (UK)  »
Hi Maddy and KGarrand.

Penwith Moors puts it too far away, but thanks anyway.

Your reply on my other post Maddy has had me busy editing this post, so I am not sure what version you responded to? Yes, found Milford on same site. I did find another map that had Milford north and south marked down in the same location. On Elizabeth's death certificate, the abode is quoted as Thornhill Head, so I am pretty confident I have the right location down to a mile or so as Milford is close by. I think that this is about as good as I will get and I need to stop looking for perfection...bear with me, I am new to all this malarky!
Cheers,
B

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By Jove, I think you ay have cracked it Maddy! Hadnt thought of looking up info on Hugh Brent....

I had assumed he lived in Shebbear itself, however your research confirms Binworthy...so a newspaper typo....

Thank you SO much!....
Cheers, Bruce :)

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