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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: Was there a baby??
« on: Friday 20 June 25 18:05 BST (UK)  »
Since Stanley himself was raised by other family members other than his mother, I wonder if Stanley's child ended up being raised by Jessie or one of the other siblings when they're raising their kids. I thought maybe she could appear as an extra in a household in an Australia Census Record. I'm having a harder time finding those records, though.

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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: Was there a baby??
« on: Friday 30 May 25 22:45 BST (UK)  »
We know Stanley in 30 June 1921 had the daughter in Australia, so perhaps that's why she doesn't appear in the Roberts household whenever the census was taken (post-Feb) in 1921.

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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: Was there a baby??
« on: Friday 30 May 25 15:51 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for pointing that out; that seems obvious but I had missed it. Stanley's military discharge was 7-12-19. If his statement about the child's age is correct, that would put conception closer to January 1919.




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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: Was there a baby??
« on: Friday 30 May 25 13:14 BST (UK)  »
Here are the images of the Land Loan doc that mention the child.

https://ibb.co/CfbQhfg
https://ibb.co/3y69bG32

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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: Was there a baby??
« on: Friday 30 May 25 13:11 BST (UK)  »
The Local Land Board document from 30 June 1921 is Stanley applying for Land in Horsham, Victoria, Australia. It seems a good possibility that he never returned to Aberdeen at all, and instead had some other relationship in AU, potentially where mom died, leaving him with a daughter.

I don't have any documentation that he ever returned to Scotland after marrying Mary Ann during military furlough. I think you've helped me confirm that there was no daughter of the union of Stanley and Mary Ann born in that window. That's been very helpful.

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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: Was there a baby??
« on: Friday 30 May 25 03:37 BST (UK)  »
I am amazed at the responses; I just joined the community but did not expect such help.

On 30 June 1921, Stanley is applying for land for farming. He identifies as a Widower, as being 27 years old, and as having one dependent, a "daughter (1 yr 8 mos)".

The only woman I know of in Stanley's life is Mary Ann Roberts, whom he married in Aberdeen in Nov 1918. At some point in 1919, she's filing a missing persons report, "They were supposed to be going to Australia, but he has put it off, and now she doubts his background and wants it checked."

She immigrates with her family in Oct 1923. If the baby in question were hers, she would have been born in the interim, then surrendered to Stanley for him to take back to Australia. It's possible, but seems improbable. In that rare case, I can almost imagine Stanley just reporting his wife as dead for the sake of simplicity. I'm grateful for the group verifying no Scottish female birth records support that hypothesis.

The other (now more likely) option is that the daughter is the offspring of Stanley and some other woman, potentially an Australian.

To the question of Mary Ann Roberts in the USA, she is with her Father and brother in Des Moines, Polk, Iowa, USA in the Iowa 1925 Census, still identifying as Mary Sheriff. By 1930 US Census, she appears as Mary A Roberts, with mom and dad. By 1940 she has married again, US Naturalization process in Sep 1943.

Stanley records I've found just indicate he struggled in farming and dealt with bankruptcy court in 1931. Eventually probate of his will granted things to a Malcolm Thomas Brooksby (half-brother). No daughter is mentioned.

I've looked for the daughter but haven't found her. Approx. DOB per the land doc would be Oct 1919.

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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: Was there a baby??
« on: Thursday 29 May 25 18:08 BST (UK)  »
I know that this thread is very old, but I have compiled extensive research for Stanley Layman Sheriff and am happy to share with anyone interested. I have several digital newspapers of his life, including of his marriage to Mary Ann Roberts in Aberdeen, Scotland, Nov 1918. Mary is submitting her missing person report in 1919, as he never returned to Scotland for her. By 1923, she immigrates to the US, eventually marrying again to a man named Walter Thomas Madden. He died in 1968, she in July 1979 ultimately of cancer.

I'd love any collaboration on Stanley's daughter, who only appears unnamed in a single source that I've found - a loan application as ex-military. Public Record Office Victoria; Victoria, Australia; Land Selection Files, Section 12 Closer Settlement Act 1938; Series Number: VPRS 5714.

Happy to collaborate or share what I know, I'd love any input from anyone who knows more.

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