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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Brother of Mary Mitchell 1851 census
« on: Thursday 07 August 25 03:28 BST (UK)  »
That 1844 marriage record for Richard John Dennis confirms his father was William Dennis, Shipwright. Richard was living in Stepney and married Elizabeth Mitchell, daughter of John Mitchell, wool comber. So if you’re tracing Mary (possibly Richard’s sister), and her marriage lists a William Dennis, shipwright, too—that’s a strong match. The Dennis family likely started in Monkleigh, Devon, and moved for shipyard work. That marriage record ties the whole line together nicely!

For more digging, try:

FamilySearch: https://www.familysearch.org
YourRoots: https://yourroots.com/search-record/country/united-kingdom-england
Cornwall 1881 Census: http://sites.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/82283a.html

The 1844 marriage to Richard John Dennis has her father as William, a shipwright.

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Cambridgeshire / Re: William Fisher Middleton
« on: Thursday 31 July 25 09:45 BST (UK)  »
Just to add to the earlier info—yes, that marriage record for 25 August 1850 in Lambeth is confirmed: William Middleton (widower, son of David Middleton, carpenter) married Susannah Gray (spinster, daughter of Henry Gray, laborer). Witnesses were John Middleton and Mary Davey (maybe Dewey—your hunch might be right).

For more digging, don’t forget to check:

FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org)

Ancestry (https://www.ancestry.com)

YourRoots – England Records (https://yourroots.com/search-record/country/united-kingdom-england)

Marriage of William Middleton widower to Susannah Gray spinster is on ancestry 25 August 1850

His Father David   

Her father Henry

Witness John Middleton and Mary Davey? possibly Dewey

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Durham / Re: George Son of John Hood bapt Gateshead 1st Oct 1786, any info please?
« on: Wednesday 23 July 25 06:21 BST (UK)  »
The 1736 South Kirkby baptism for Elizabeth Spencer (father John) is a solid lead but has been ruled out—she married Richard Collett and is confirmed in her brother John Spencer’s 1810 Selby will as “Elizabeth Collett.” So not our Elizabeth (Hood).

Next best steps are:
・Search FamilySearch baptisms 1720–1740 (https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1473014)
・Get Catherine Spencer’s 1782 will from TNA (https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D430960)
・Check Borthwick/FindMyPast for a 1775 John Spencer (Scarborough) probate and try the Yorkshire region via YourRoots county records: https://yourroots.com/search-record/state-province-county

Hello Dave and All

Thanks

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Mark

Did your ever find Elizabeth Spencer's (Leppington/Hood) baptism father John - died/buried 1775 Scarborough as I can't find a baptism in Scarborough 1720 to 1740 search

There's Elizabeth Spencer father John in South Kirkby 30th Dec 1736


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1) No, I have never thought of looking further afield for a baptism of nee Elizabeth Spencer / after 1st marriage Elizabeth Leppington and after 2nd marriage Elizabeth Hood.

Good point Dave, we have her age on the Scarborough Licence paperwork Elizabeth Leppington, Widow = John Hood.

2) Regarding John Spencer, Landlord at Selby from c.1791-2 (Landlord, previously John Turner, Grocer.)

Regarding his Sister Elizabeth baptised 1736, we can definitely rule her out ...

In the Will of John Spencer of Selby Proved 1810, he mentions his Sisters and Elizabeth being Elizabeth Collet and checking the marriages an Elizabeth Spencer = Richard Collett.

Mark

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Carlow / Re: Cloneighgal ?
« on: Wednesday 16 July 25 11:58 BST (UK)  »
Patrick Clynch and Mary Byrne married and gave birth to at least five children. Four of them emigrated to Iowa, USA in 1850's. One son, John, had engraved on his headstone, "born Parish of Cloneighgal County Carlow Ireland May 24 1823. He is the only family member who left a lasting link to his home place. This is an unusual spelling, CLONEIGHGAL; any thoughts on this spelling of what I perceive to be current parish of Clonegal. John's brother, William, baptism (1820) is found in the Bagenalstown records. The family must have moved about.

Oh, I just love how that headstone gives such a rich clue. Yes, “Cloneighgal” is definitely an old or phonetic misspelling of Clonegal — the parish on the Carlow-Wexford border. It wasn’t unusual for names to get spelled how they sounded, especially by American stonecutters unfamiliar with Irish geography.
The research confirms William was baptized in 1820 in Dunleckny (Bagenalstown), and John was born 1823 near Clonegal, though his baptism’s missing since Clonegal registers didn’t begin until 1833. That unusual spelling is actually a little genealogical gem — one of those lovely quirks that helps more than it hinders!

URL for reference:

Clonegal parish registers: https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0700

YourRoots County Carlow search:
https://yourroots.com/search-record/state-province-county

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Inverness / Re: Alexander FRASER 1795-??
« on: Wednesday 09 July 25 09:05 BST (UK)  »
You’re absolutely right to question the 1887 death date. Based on ScotlandsPeople records and census evidence, Alexander Fraser (sawyer) definitely died before 1859. His son Donald’s 1859 marriage record lists Alexander as deceased, and wife Isabella is listed as his widow by 1873. Most likely death year is ca. 1837 — the headstone probably reads “1837,” not “1887” (easy misread!). Also confirmed: Richard McBean Fraser is Alexander’s grandson through Donald Fraser and Catherine Watson.

You can check original records here:
ScotlandsPeople: https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
FindAGrave memorial (Richard): https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/147698707
Geneanet family tree: https://gw.geneanet.org/jmackenzie?m=N&v=FRASER
YourRoots – Fraser family search: https://yourroots.com/search-record/surname

Alexander FRASER married Isabella FRASER at Kirkhill on 15 Jul 1818.

There is a gravestone in the Kilchuiman Burial Ground near Fort Augustus which is supposed to be him. Has him as a sawyer.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/182156202/alexander-fraser

Death year looks like 1887, which has been repeated on lots of trees on Ancestry. No death for him on ScotlandsPeople in 1887. I believe it could be 1837.

When his son Donald FRASER married Catherine WATSON in 1859, the certificate has Alexander as a sawyer and deceased.

When his wife Isabella died in 1873, she was the widow of Alexander FRASER, Sawyer. Her death date on the headstone checks out. Died in Bunoich.

So no way he died in 1887. Can anyone assist in tracking down the right Alexander please.

Interested because of Richard McBean FRASER 1876-1964, on the other headstone in the photo for Alexander. There is supposed to be some connection with him and our FRASER family, who were from Bunoich, Fort Augustus and Invermoriston. Trying to find if this is true or just another family story.

Richard is a grandson of Alexander and Isabella, and son of Donald FRASER and Catherine WATSON.

Thanks
Ian C

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New Zealand / Re: Ship:Lyttleton
« on: Thursday 03 July 25 01:42 BST (UK)  »
The Lyttelton was owned by Shaw, Savill & Albion and did indeed sink off Timaru in 1886. The official crew list for that final voyage (1886) is very likely held at The National Archives (UK) under the BT 99 series, searchable by the official number 78620. Sadly, the Maritime History Archive in Canada doesn’t have the 1886 list. You might also check FamilySearch for passenger names around June 1886, and PapersPast has local news coverage that mentions some crew.

FamilySearch: https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1609792
UK National Archives: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Timaru Herald 1886 article: https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/THD18860623.2.23
MHA (Canada): https://mha.mun.ca/mha/holdings/viewcombinedcrews.php?Official_No=78620
YourRoots: https://yourroots.com/search-record/country

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Australia / Re: john james tickell b 1849
« on: Thursday 26 June 25 03:38 BST (UK)  »
Here's what I could confirm about John James Tickell and Jessie Melvin: John was born 25 Nov 1849 on Spring Street, Melbourne, to John and Isabella Tickell. He married Jessie Melvin in 1871 in Collingwood (Reg. No. 00996). No children were found in Victoria’s birth records, and neither John nor Jessie has a confirmed death record in the state—suggesting they may have moved interstate (e.g., WA) or to New Zealand. No remarriage record found for Jessie either.

You can check:
WA BDM: https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/department-of-justice/online-index-search-tool
NZ BDM: https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz
Tickell one-name site: https://tickle.one-name.net/tng/getperson.php?personID=I3031&tree=ENG
YourRoots Australia: https://yourroots.com/search-record/country/australia
Trove: https://trove.nla.gov.au

John James Tickell b 25 nov 1849  Spring Street Melbourne Victoria Australia son of John and Isabella i think he married Jessie Melvin 1871 victoria thats all i know not sure if he had children when he died or what happened to his wife Jessie any help appreciated

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Australia / Re: Passenger details of OLIVER family arr Sydney Aug 1886
« on: Thursday 19 June 25 09:02 BST (UK)  »
Based on solid records, it turns out Janet didn’t remarry after 1892. That early death date was a red herring—Robert Sr. lived until about 1928, and Janet stayed his wife until her death in 1933. She’s buried under the name “Janet Roberts Henderson” in Omaha. So Robert Jr. kept the Henderson surname, which helps! You’ll find him born in 1892 in Cumbernauld, moved with the family to Illinois, then Nebraska, and buried in the same cemetery as his mom: Westlawn-Hillcrest in Omaha.

FamilySearch: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L1VR-VJH

Find a Grave: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/105765290/robert-henderson

YourRoots: https://yourroots.com/search-record/state-province-county

Still does not find Robert jnr but his father died 1892. Still a chance Janet remarried.

SS

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Monmouthshire / Re: Jim Brewer
« on: Friday 13 June 25 02:36 BST (UK)  »
Jim Brewer lived quite the life—from miner to Spanish Civil War vet, teacher, and councillor. Born 7 April 1913 in Rhymney, he later taught at Rhymney Comprehensive School and served as a local councillor. He passed in 1993 in Pontypool. You’ll find his birth and death in the England & Wales indexes. Try the 1921 Census for family details and check with Gwent Archives for school or council records. FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org) and YourRoots (https://yourroots.com) are great places to search for records and build his family tree. Happy digging—and let us know what you uncover!

Seeking information on James (Jim) Brewer, formerly of Rhymney and Abertysswg, particularly during his time as a school teacher at Rhymney Comprehensive School and local Councillor. 

 

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