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Armed Forces / Re: 17th Lancers 1894-1902
« on: Thursday 04 December 25 18:12 GMT (UK)  »
That's interesting thank you. I'm glad you mentioned that he forfeited his good conduct pay I was wondering what PGC pay was. I've just noticed right at the front he signed on for 7 years with the colours and 5 with the reserve so I guess the Boer War extended his service with the colours and he got transferred to the Reserve as soon as possible for what was left of those 5 years.

I can't find an obvious reason for his return home in 1900, nothing like his parents or one of his children dying (although I don't actually know when either of his parents did die), although that doesn't exclude sickness, but he definitely seems to have met with Florence, because their daughter Evelyn was born in York on 17 May 1901.

I think that answers my main questions at the moment, I feel I have a rough understanding of what he was doing during his service now. Thank you for your help. I dare say I'll be back on this board soon though, I've got Edward's WW1 record to get through although you did explain some of that already, then it looks like at least 2 of his sons were in the RAF in the 1930s and into WW2, so I'll need to see what I can work out for them. Also I do have some collateral family who were in the army and I remembered after making my last post that my great grandfather James Henry Widdop was also briefly in the Army, between leaving his wife and going back to her, I never think of him as having been a soldier though.


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Armed Forces / Re: 17th Lancers 1894-1902
« on: Thursday 04 December 25 16:19 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you very much Andy. I see Ballincollig is in Cork so I guess Harold Clifford found it easier to give Cork for his birth place and I guess that that was somewhere Florence could go with him, like she later went with him to Romsey, since Douglas Edward and my grandmother Majorie Hilda are born there in 1916 and 1919. I haven't managed to work through his WW1 service record yet so the information you mention about that is very interesting.

Do you have any ideas why he would have been at Fulford Barracks when he marries in April 1897 when it seems the unit was in Leeds, or why he would have come back to England during the middle of the Boer War (and I need to go reread that, I've just realised that period is not 235 days), or why he would have come home early to be discharged?

I'm sorry if these seem like silly questions but Edward is my only direct ancestor to have been in the military, so it's a whole new area to me.

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Armed Forces / 17th Lancers 1894-1902
« on: Thursday 04 December 25 13:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, I hope I gave this the right name, I wasn't sure what to use. My great grandfather Edward Nicklin served in this unit during the above period but all I can tell from his service record is that he was in the Boer War, and I was wondering how to find information on what he might have been doing the rest of the time. (I've found a little bit of information about what the 17th Lancers did during the Boer War on www.angloboerwar.com but if anybody knows where to find any more I won't say no)

The dates in his record are:
Transferred to the 17th Lancers from the 2nd Battalion North Staffordshire Regiment 1 Sep 1894 (he was originally attested 10 October 1893) and he was transferred to the Army Reserve on demobilisation on 24 December 1902 (discharged on 9 October 1905)

His service is listed as
Home               10 Oct 1893 – 14 Feb 1900 (6 years 128 days)
South Africa   15 Feb 1900 – 10 Sep 1900 (146 days)
Home           11 Sep 1900 – 2 March 1901 (235 days)
South Africa   3 March 1901 - 26 Aug 1902 (1 year 177 days)
Home           17 Aug 1902 – 9 Oct 1905 (3 years 44 days)

I do know that he was in Fulford Barracks in York in 1897 because he marries at Fulford on 12 April 1897, also his son Harold Clifford Nicklin is born in 1900 in Cork, Ireland. His other children born whilst he's in the army are born at York or at Tutbury, where he is from, so I'm guessing his wife Florence was staying with either her family or his and not with him when they were born.

Also he has the following medals listed
Queens SA medal with clasp
Cape colony and O F State
Kings medal with clasp
S A 1901
S A 1902
As far as I can tell they just mean he served in South Africa for at least 18 months, was there in 1901 and 1902 and served in the Cape of Good Hope and Orange Free State but not in any specific actions.

Any help gratefully received, military history is an area I really don't know about.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Are Yorkshire Wills online anywhere ?
« on: Saturday 29 November 25 23:51 GMT (UK)  »
If you can get to York to visit the Borthwick, then you can view all of the Probate Books and download copies of any wills you want to a USB stick free of charge.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Needing help with Latin again
« on: Tuesday 28 October 25 19:13 GMT (UK)  »
True, I've got quite a few who lived past 40, including the John Battersby and Clement Parker in this list, lol. So there's no real reason it can't be Clement's father. Thank you again for your help.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Needing help with Latin again
« on: Tuesday 28 October 25 16:02 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you, the place is Duckmire, I've found it mentioned in other records but haven't pinned down where in Slaidburn it was yet. I think Robert is his brother, John was born about 1652 from his age at death and the Slaidburn register doesn't survive from that period but I have a baptism for Robert to William Battersby of Duckmire in 1665 so I think it's likely they're the same family especially with them both becoming quakers. The Robert Parker is puzzling me, Clement Parker was the son of a Robert but that Robert would be at least 80 at this date, so I'm wondering if it's a brother I haven't found.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Needing help with Latin again
« on: Monday 27 October 25 21:05 GMT (UK)  »
That makes sense for quakers, thank you very much.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Needing help with Latin again
« on: Monday 27 October 25 15:51 GMT (UK)  »

Can somebody give me a translation for this please, several of them are quakers so I'm guessing a fine for holding/attending a meeting, but that is a guess.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Need help with a surname
« on: Thursday 04 September 25 13:39 BST (UK)  »
Yes, I can see it now, thank you everybody. Thomas Tib and Elizabeth Denbie both of Hambleton, I was trying to make the both part of the surname before.

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