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Northumberland / Re: Mary Grey
« on: Monday 05 May 25 12:15 BST (UK)  »
Yesterday, danieir said In the 1851 census, her birth year is given as 1788 (est.) and place as Kyloe, Durham. She is living in "[blank], Northumberland". --- not so, they were living at Lemmington Bank Top --- Lemmington is near to Alnwick.


I love connections :-)
Death Notice , Morpeth Herald 09 Feb 1861, page 8, col 4

Boo

Side-tracking a little from the investigation: confirming details of Mary & Thomas Mole's children and notice you're the transcriber for the FreeREG records! So helpful, thank you!  ;D

Also noticed more christening records for 1835-1841. Parents are Thomas Mole and Mary, church is the same that the prior Eglingham christenings took place. Although Mary Grey/Mole would've been about 52 at the latter point  ???

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Northumberland / Re: Mary Grey
« on: Sunday 04 May 25 08:34 BST (UK)  »

Death Notice , Morpeth Herald 09 Feb 1861, page 8, col 4

Boo

Ah awesome, fantastic find! Age also matches with the birth-year I’ve found so is very likely him.

Link to the burial register (Bishop's Transcript) entry image for Thomas Mole
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6S89-V5D?

If you want further confirmation/clues to decide if its the right man, you'd need to see his civil death certificate details : A death entry for this time will give date and place of death, name, age, occupation, cause of death and the name and address of the informant - who hopefully is a known relative :-)

if you don't already have one, sign up for a free account at https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

If you are logged in you can search historical births/deaths in England & Wales. Once you find one and select it you get 3 options to order the record
1 an official certificate  - by post on a posh piece of paper cost £12.50
2 a pdf image of the original register entry - by email within a few days cost £8
3 a digital image of the register entry - immediately available online after payment cost £3
no prizes for guessing which option is my preferred one.
However there 'can'  be problems with the digital ones as they were not always scanned 'straight' and sometimes  the top or bottom may not be viewable. I still try that option first, if the image isn't fully readable, I ask for a refund (they are not rescanning these) and order the pdf version.

Boo

Amazing, thank you Boo! Will . for if/when I start looking into the Mole side  ;D

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Northumberland / Re: Mary Grey
« on: Saturday 03 May 25 10:11 BST (UK)  »
Yesterday, danieir said In the 1851 census, her birth year is given as 1788 (est.) and place as Kyloe, Durham. She is living in "[blank], Northumberland". --- not so, they were living at Lemmington Bank Top --- Lemmington is near to Alnwick.


I love connections :-)
Death Notice , Morpeth Herald 09 Feb 1861, page 8, col 4

Boo

Ah awesome, fantastic find! Age also matches with the birth-year I’ve found so is very likely him.

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Northumberland / Re: Mary Grey
« on: Saturday 03 May 25 04:45 BST (UK)  »
What was the source of the image you’ve seen?
Could you give a link to it?

It was an image I’d saved from, maybe Ancestry? Looks like it was someone’s notes researching the Elizabeth Grey side of the tree though. When I’m next at the library I’ll see if I can find it  :)

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Northumberland / Re: Mary Grey
« on: Friday 02 May 25 12:57 BST (UK)  »
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In the christening records for her daughter Elizabeth, the maternal grandfather's name is given as Thomas Grey.

I'm a bit confused by this (not difficult  ;D ) So far I can only find baptisms records where Elizabeth's father's name is given as Thomas. Where have you found a record which states that Mary's father (i.e. Elizabeth's grandfather) was Thomas?

This was on a record image, however upon reviewing I am now noticing a difference in the handwriting ::). Probably wasn’t on the original record?

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Tracing Relative Born Pre-1600?
« on: Friday 02 May 25 12:02 BST (UK)  »
For a good overview of sources, there's Chris Phillip's Medieval English Genealogy. Strictly speaking Medieval would be pre-1500 but there are many sources up to 1600. Many of these are for upper classes, but probate records and common law records can help.

http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/sources/olmed.shtml

Fantastic, thank you!

What were the names of the Baker children? That can sometime give a clue as to parent's parent's names

Currently been able to find: Elizabeth, John, Margaret, William (to whom I'm related) and Francis.

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Northumberland / Re: Mary Grey
« on: Friday 02 May 25 11:41 BST (UK)  »
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In the 1851 census, her birth year is given as 1788 (est.) and place as Kyloe, Durham.

You probably already know this - but in case you don't, just to explain that although Kyloe is now part of Northumberland, until 1844 it was part of County Durham.

Oh wow! I didn't actually know this (I'm not from England - nor Europe at all - so half of these place names are new to me :D). That makes so much more sense now, thanks!

Thank you for the image, AllanUK! Helpful to know that FindMyPast has image censuses (showing off my currently-limited genealogical knowledge, oops)

Have you tried to track 1808 Marriage Witness Ralph Gray?

I did! The other witness, "Alexr. Mole", is either Thomas's father or brother (unlikely as he was twelve). Going off this, I found a 'Mary Grey' - daughter of Ralph and Jane - christened in Morpeth 13th May 1787. Also found a Mary Grey christened 9 May 1782 and a Ralph Grey christened 6 July 1788 - children of John and Susannah in Houghton-le-Spring.

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Family History Beginners Board / Tracing Relative Born Pre-1600?
« on: Friday 02 May 25 10:54 BST (UK)  »
Hello!

I have been very fortunate and found that a lineage has had generations of records linked to St. Matthew's Church in Walsall, Staffordshire. The earliest relative I've been able to find is a John Baker, who married Anne Cowper in 1592. Anne was christened in 1572 at St. Matthew, as was her and John's son William in 1609. It appears that John was buried at the church in 1624 and Anne in 1647.

I have been unable to find any information on John prior to his marriage. The burial records don't list ages, and Anne's christening records don't list parent names (only that her father's surname was Cowper). Ancestry appears to have no information outside of marriage and child christenings for either (cannot find any family trees with them on). FamilySearch alleges that John was born "abt 1567 in Walsall" and his parents were "Capt. Christopher Thomas Baker" and "Mary Dorythe Thomsone" - no were sources provided and no records that I could find even suggested these details could be true.

Are there any other web resources that I can use to try find more information? Unfortunately geographical restrictions prevent me from being able to physically get my hands dirty  :'(

Thank you!

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My Goodness that's amazing she would have certainly seen a few changes through the years

Rosie

2 world wars, 24 English prime ministers, 2 pandemics, the Hollywood Golden Age (start to finish), the invention of the modern computer & the world-wide web… not to mention all the medical advances! Absolutely incredible.

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