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Armed Forces / Re: Jan Erik Norberg, Seaman Swedish Navy 1880's
« on: Thursday 03 April 25 11:14 BST (UK)  »
Hi Ian
Sorry about that, not exactly sure how to find a PM.
Thanks Jenny

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Armed Forces / Re: Jan Erik Norberg, Seaman Swedish Navy 1880's
« on: Thursday 03 April 25 10:42 BST (UK)  »
Hi Ian

Thank you so much, I would really appreciate the help with translation.

I see you have sent a  message on Facebook, sorry I can't seem to see it anywhere.

Thanks Jenny

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Armed Forces / Re: Jan Erik Norberg, Seaman Swedish Navy 1880's
« on: Friday 28 March 25 11:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ian

Yes please, I would love any documents you have been able to find.  I am so grateful to have been able to find any information.

Many thanks Jenny

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Armed Forces / Re: Jan Erik Norberg, Seaman Swedish Navy 1880's
« on: Sunday 23 March 25 10:58 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ian (again, sorry)

If you have records of him being enrolled as a seaman in 1871, making him 11 years old. Does that mean he had joined the Navy at that age or did he actually join at around 17 years of age.

Thanks Jenny

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Armed Forces / Re: Jan Erik Norberg, Seaman Swedish Navy 1880's
« on: Sunday 23 March 25 10:54 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ian

Yes please, I would love any documents you have been able to find.  I am so grateful to have been able to find any information.

Many thanks Jenny

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Armed Forces / Re: Jan Erik Norberg, Seaman Swedish Navy 1880's
« on: Wednesday 12 March 25 00:31 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
Thank you so much for helping me with any information about Jan Eric Norberg.
Can you please check the following information:
He was a cook on schooner 'Henno', salary 16 Swedish crowns a month.
Church records say he moved from the family in 1882, unknown where he was in 1887, 1888 and 1889. He lost his job in the North of Sweden, in Pitea 1894.

Is the Examination Book the Church records?

When he jumped ship he changed his surname to Mattsen (son of Mathias).
He lived an extremely tough life, he could speak English but not read or write in English, lost his leg below the knee while driving a horse and was thrown from the cart, had a very turbulent marriage to Caroline Morgan and all their 7 children were sent to an orphanage as they were taken off them by the Police.
He died in Dannevirke on 28 April 1934.
With this further information from you he was a seaman at 11 but may not have come to New Zealand for quite a while after that.

Look forward to hearing if you find anything else.

Many thanks
Jenny

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Armed Forces / Re: Jan Erik Norberg, Seaman Swedish Navy 1880's
« on: Tuesday 11 March 25 17:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ian
Thank you so much for that. Are you able to give me any information about his apparently very short Navy career.
When did he join the Navy and what ship was he on when he jumped etc.

Many thanks Jenny

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Armed Forces / Jan Erik Norberg, Seaman Swedish Navy 1880's
« on: Monday 10 March 25 10:16 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
I am trying to locate the Navy record for my great grandfather Jan Erik Norberg, born 2 August 1860
Norrsund, Vaddo, Stockholm, Sweden.
Father: Mathias Harg Norberg - born 23 Feb 1834 in Soderby-Karl, Uppland, Sweden
Mother: Johanna Andersdotter Ostman - born 16 Aug 1837 in Vaddo, Stockholm, Sweden

We have very little information about his life in Sweden and have varying stories about how he came to New Zealand
1. He jumped ship in Nelson, NZ at the age of 11 with his brother
2. He was a seaman and did not get back onto the ship in Nelson, NZ so the ship left without him.

I would appreciate any help in gaining more information about him.

Many thanks Jenny

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