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World War Two / Re: 7th Batt Oxford & Bucks Light Infantry - WW2
« on: Friday 26 December 25 02:06 GMT (UK)  »
2nd photo.  I also have an official one of the whole unit/battalion (female here so don't know the term but quite a big group)but will need to dig that one out.

Can you get a clearer photo of the chap in the top right pouring the drink? I believe its my great grandfather

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United States of America / Re: Robert E Lee Davis Parents
« on: Sunday 30 November 25 13:46 GMT (UK)  »
Found this with a Francis M in it but the birth years are way out. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M65S-F8Q?lang=en

A George Washington Davis and a Francis M in the same family, but as you said Francis' birth is way off - he was married for at least a year or so by 1850.

Could this be something for 1850?

Son Frances DOB is only two years out. https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/8054/records/17207668?tid=192997417&pid=312724809599&queryId=1cb4d65e-d779-4d37-ba00-8e0109ff6c59&_phsrc=MfQ3&_phstart=successSource

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United States of America / Re: Robert E Lee Davis Parents
« on: Sunday 30 November 25 13:11 GMT (UK)  »
Found this with a Francis M in it but the birth years are way out. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M65S-F8Q?lang=en

A George Washington Davis and a Francis M in the same family, but as you said Francis' birth is way off - he was married for at least a year or so by 1850.

How is that the case, My DOB for Mary Collier is 1845 she would have only have been 4 when he married her in that case! Something is wrong here.

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United States of America / Re: Robert E Lee Davis Parents
« on: Sunday 30 November 25 10:15 GMT (UK)  »
You could look for a list of revolutionary war generals. Besides Francis Marion, all I can think of is George Washington.

Andrew Jackson was a big name from the war of 1812. Your Francis could have a sibling named Andrew Jackson Davis.

Found this with a Francis M in it but the birth years are way out. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M65S-F8Q?lang=en

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United States of America / Re: Robert E Lee Davis Parents
« on: Sunday 30 November 25 10:07 GMT (UK)  »
You could look for a list of revolutionary war generals. Besides Francis Marion, all I can think of is George Washington.

Andrew Jackson was a big name from the war of 1812. Your Francis could have a sibling named Andrew Jackson Davis.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MDZD-QBH?lang=en

Could be worth something?

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United States of America / Re: Robert E Lee Davis Parents
« on: Saturday 29 November 25 11:08 GMT (UK)  »
I think its also worth looking for Francis in Arkansas as thats where he is in 1880. Meaning he had left Stoddard by this point yet again making me skeptical of the Phebe Marriage as that was in 1884 after Francis had already left Stoddard. Why would he have moved back?

That 1900 census with Jane F is the only one that says Francis Marion Davis was born in NC, isn't it? So if that is not your ancestor, then there is no reason to think he was born there, and you can pay less attention to those two possibilities I just posted - the family in Kentucky, and the Francis Marion Davis, 18, in NC.

I'm starting to realize that a lot of families in North Carolina thought that the general, Francis Marion, was a good guy.:)

Could you think of any other male military figures from around the time Frank’s Dad could have been born to maybe help narrow down on names possibly?

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United States of America / Re: Robert E Lee Davis Parents
« on: Saturday 29 November 25 11:01 GMT (UK)  »
I think its also worth looking for Francis in Arkansas as thats where he is in 1880. Meaning he had left Stoddard by this point yet again making me skeptical of the Phebe Marriage as that was in 1884 after Francis had already left Stoddard. Why would he have moved back?

That 1900 census with Jane F is the only one that says Francis Marion Davis was born in NC, isn't it? So if that is not your ancestor, then there is no reason to think he was born there, and you can pay less attention to those two possibilities I just posted - the family in Kentucky, and the Francis Marion Davis, 18, in NC.

I'm starting to realize that a lot of families in North Carolina thought that the general, Francis Marion, was a good guy.:)

I have just found this that has peaked my interest slightly. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MDZQ-1WG?lang=en

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United States of America / Re: Robert E Lee Davis Parents
« on: Saturday 29 November 25 10:44 GMT (UK)  »
I think its also worth looking for Francis in Arkansas as thats where he is in 1880. Meaning he had left Stoddard by this point yet again making me skeptical of the Phebe Marriage as that was in 1884 after Francis had already left Stoddard. Why would he have moved back?

That 1900 census with Jane F is the only one that says Francis Marion Davis was born in NC, isn't it? So if that is not your ancestor, then there is no reason to think he was born there, and you can pay less attention to those two possibilities I just posted - the family in Kentucky, and the Francis Marion Davis, 18, in NC.

I'm starting to realize that a lot of families in North Carolina thought that the general, Francis Marion, was a good guy.:)

The 1900 is the only census that mentions North Carolina yet again making me think its not my Francis.

The 3 census I do have all say Kentucky apart from the 1870 Census where he is listed as being born in Tennessee.

“Lets make a chart to show what details we have that have been noted on these census to help build a picture perhaps.

Francis Birth:

1860 Census: Born 1832 Born Kentucky

1870 Census: Born 1830 Born Tennessee

1880 Census: Born 1830 Born Kentucky

Going off this knowledge it seems likely he was probably born in 1830 and the 1860 census is just a couple years out for some reason. Should we try and search for any birth records in Tennessee for Francis/Franklin/F M Davis?”

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United States of America / Re: Robert E Lee Davis Parents
« on: Saturday 29 November 25 09:46 GMT (UK)  »
Should we try and search for any birth records in Tennessee for Francis/Franklin/F M Davis?

That would be a good idea. When you do, also search for his father. Look in the 1850 census for any male named Davis, born say 1770 to 1810, who was living in Tennessee but was born in North Carolina. That allows for his father being anywhere between 20 and 60 when Francis was born. If there is a son named Francis in the household about the right age, make a note of the family. See if their Francis was still in the household in 1860. If so, they aren't the right family, since we know your Francis was on his own by then with a son William - whom you are sure of.

If Francis is not there, then research the family like it was your own and see if it lines up. Were they in NC in 1840 and before? Where? near the Colliers by any chance?  A negative answer to that question wouldn't rule them out, but a positive answer might make them a little more likely. Did the parents end up in Stoddard County like your Francis did? etc.

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I found a family in Kentucky using that method but never worked any more on them. You could follow them up also.
They are:
1850 Hopkins County, Kentucky
William M Davis, 42, farmer, real estate: $800
Elizabeth Davis, 45
Frances Davis, 18, male, born in NC
Emisetta Davis, 14
Benjamin Davis, 10
Israel Davis, 8
Mason Davis, 6
all born in NC

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M654-XQJ?lang=en

That Francis is not with the family in 1860
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZBQ-5B2?lang=en

The fact that their Francis was said to be born in NC, and probably was since all the younger children are said to be born there also, does not eliminate him in my opinion. At this point I don't think we really know where he was born.

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Here is another person I never got back to look at:

1850, Buncombe County, NC
Francis M Davis, 18
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4BW-3K7?lang=en

I think its also worth looking for Francis in Arkansas as thats where he is in 1880. Meaning he had left Stoddard by this point yet again making me skeptical of the Phebe Marriage as that was in 1884 after Francis had already left Stoddard. Why would he have moved back?

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