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Lanarkshire / Re: Identity of Maggie Campbell's Parents
« on: Tuesday 22 July 25 14:17 BST (UK)  »
From the marriage SS has posted looked for the death
28 January 1906 251 Kennedy Street Glasgow
Caroline Pennington age 55 ?
Married first to William Campbell
Married to Thomas Forbes he registered the death

Sorry I don't know how to copy and post C Forlow if you pm your email address I will send you the copy if required

Rosie

Hi Rosie,

You can email me at [blank] - I'll be glad to see this record! I think this may be the mystery finally being "put to bed"!

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Lanarkshire / Re: Identity of Maggie Campbell's Parents
« on: Tuesday 22 July 25 14:04 BST (UK)  »
I had an appointment at the City Archives in the Mitchell Library today. So I had a look through the poor-relief applications but couldn't see anything that fitted for Maggie. There is a "Margaret Campbell Robertson", wife of William Robertson but, they were married in Crieff (Perthshire) in 1883 so it doesn't match, plus the parents don't match either. (They were a dreadful couple, both in and out of prison, she tried to strangle her son and attacked the policeman with a poker and a brush, when he intervened, while calling on someone to fetch her a hatchet!).

I did find what looks to be William senior.
The Archives reference is D/HEW 16/13/625 - 93774. Parish of Glasgow.

WILLIAM WEST ROBERTSON.

Application made by his brother Charles Robertson, with whom he resides.
Date of claim - 23rd May 1924. From 30 Oran Street, 1 up, right door.

Applicant was born 10th June 1861 at 51 Clyde Place, Tradeston (Glasgow)
Age - 63 years.
Condition - Single.

Parents - Charles Robertson, commercial traveller & Janet West. Both dead.

His brother had concern over his mental health and he was subsequently removed to hospital.

Not much information I'm afraid but it may help.

CForlow, have you checked all the information in your original post? Or have you taken it from someone else's work?

Oran Street would have been quite close to Sawmillfield St.

Hi Lodger,

Thank you for the small insight concerning William Snr's admission to Hospital - I was aware that, at the time of his death, he was in the "Old" Stobhill Hospital on Balornock Rd. To clarify - the majority of the work on the original post have been either found or backtracked by myself; some elements coming from coming from my Uncle as-well. I have the digital records of all mentioned events on the post, and I am certain they are for the described people. Although, through my research, I've found lots of supposed parent's for Maggie (Again, listed on Online Trees and my Uncle's research) to be incorrect of incoherent. I will be making a trip to the Record's House in Edinburgh in due course, and will thoroughly investigate as much 1860's entries for a "Margaret Campbell" as I can. Although, looking back I wonder is William Snr, whilst registering her death, gave incorrect information regarding her parents? Perhaps her mother's maiden name isn't "Bruce", and the middle name comes somewhere else in the family?

P.S. Just got back from a short Holiday break, trying to respond to all replies one-by-one! Whilst writing this reply, I hadn't seen pages 2 or 3 w/ Dundee, Rosie & SS's wonderful work.

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Lanarkshire / Re: Identity of Maggie Campbell's Parents
« on: Wednesday 16 July 25 19:56 BST (UK)  »
Minor point, Margaret Bruce Roberson died 10.10.1911, have you found her in 1911 census.

SS

Hi SS,

I've checked the "Milton" district in 1911, unfortunately couldn't find anything. I assume they could've relocated to Sawmillfield St mid year? I'll have another check soon, perhaps also including the "Hutchesontown" district may provide accurate answers (As they residing at Camden St in the 1901 Census). The household in 1911 should include William Snr, Maggie & Thomas - should've mentioned it in original post, but William Jnr married Helen Deacon c. 1906, and Thomas married Mary Norah MacKillop c. 1913.

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Lanarkshire / Re: Identity of Maggie Campbell's Parents
« on: Wednesday 16 July 25 18:02 BST (UK)  »
Have you found her on the 1871 or 1881 censuses

Hi CaroleW,

Unfortunately it is difficult to find this particular Maggie, as the forename "Maggie" appears very frequently in numerous household composed of a "John" & "Margaret" as head(s); and of course there is the possibility that John is deceased (Due to Margaret remarrying), which would narrow the search even more. Although, I can try looking through "Forbes" households instead, to see what that'll bring.

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Lanarkshire / Identity of Maggie Campbell's Parents
« on: Wednesday 16 July 25 15:31 BST (UK)  »
Dear Rootschat'ers

I've came to this forum in hope of aid in, perhaps, the largest "brickwall" in the my family tree at the moment - mostly concerning the parents of "Margaret Bruce Campbell", commonly referred to as "Maggie". Maggie's two birthdates are listed at abt 1863 and abt 1865, indicating she was probably born in the early-mid 1860's in Glasgow (Meaning a birth certificate for her should exist). Maggie developed a life-lasting relationship w/ William West Robertson, a Glaswegian Steward, whilst her only registered occupation I've found is a Calender Worker; although, there is nil evidence that William & Maggie ever married. Maggie had her first child, William West Robertson (Named after the credited father) c. 1885. His birth certificate marks him as "Illegitimate", although still lists both the parents and their names in full. Maggie had a second child, Thomas, in 1887 - although, Thomas was illegitimate aswell with the identity of his father unknown. Again, this is as William & Maggie weren't married. Thomas was eventually sent to live with William, and assumed the "Robertson" surnamed.

In the 1891 Census, I have William & Thomas living at No. 20 Gladstone St, adjacent to No. 22 Gladstone St (Where William was born). They are lodging alongside their paternal uncle, Charles Robertson. I can't find accurate census records for William Snr or Maggie in 1891. In the 1901 Census, the most accurate census record is for a household at No. 97 Camden St, where William & Thomas reside alongside William Snr & Maggie; who are listed as a married couple. I am not 100% sure this is the right record, but it's the best I can get. Now, the interesting part - I've found the death record for Margaret Bruce Campbell, on 10 Oct 1910 at 16 Sawmillifield St in Milton; she is aged 46 y/o, listed as the husband as William West Robertson (Widower). Her parents are listed as John Campbell, Newspaper Reporter (Deceased) & Margaret Forbes, formerly Campbell, m.s. Bruce (Deceased). Now, the challenging: looking at basic Marriage Entries on Scotland's People, there is no appropriate entries for a John Campbell & Margaret Bruce with any spelling variations. The same issue occurs after searching a [?] Forbes & Margaret Bruce. The only plausible entry for a [?] Forbes & Margaret Campbell is a 1865 Thurso Marriage, which I have inspected, and is incorrect.

So, Rootschat'ers, hopefully you all may be able to give some suggestions or a "helping hand". I am almost certain that William & Maggie weren't married, due to the lack of a marriage record - although this doesn't totally rule out the possibility. I don't understand why they'd live together and go to such lengths instead of simply marrying. Perhaps there is more to the story? Perhaps finding a suitable 1891 Census for them would help with this, and provide information regarding Maggie's parents? Just ideas, but I hope to hear back from others who can concur solutions to this problem. Most online family trees seem to list Maggie's parents as a John Campbell & Margaret Crea b. 1829 & 1825 in Ireland - but the mother's maiden name doesn't line up, and neither of them seems to have remarried to anyone, let alone a Forbes.

Best Wishes,
CForlow.

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Improving Digitized Photos
« on: Wednesday 16 July 25 13:56 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for all the fantastic tries! The finished results look SUPERB, and will deeply benefit me and my research. So, again, sincerely thank you for all the consideration and time you guys have taken to produce these finished results.

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Improving Digitized Photos
« on: Friday 11 July 25 15:52 BST (UK)  »
Hi RootsChat'ers,
In the past recent days I've been in touch with a lovely English-woman, who is a relation through my Paternal Grandfather's side (Her father was a Scotsman of whom migrated to England). She's managed to offer valuable information, though also important-ly looked out for a few photographs - unfortunately, it seems that the photos she sent via email are quite pixelated, taken with a low-quality cellphone. I could offer for her to mail the photos and I could scan them, but they're framed + she is elderly, and I would most likely just become a burden to her. The other option would be to make a personal visit; unfortunately, she simply just lives too far away. So, I've (once again) came to this forum with the hope some of the talented "photoshoppers" may have the equipment and expertise to bring these photos to an "appropriate" or "better" standard.
Thanks in Advance,
CForlow.

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Low Quality Photograph
« on: Thursday 03 July 25 15:05 BST (UK)  »
Hi All,

Sorry for the light delay - for only now I have received your responses via email. Nevertheless, I am chuffed with your attempts and deeply indebted; this should resolve all my issues regarding this photograph, and hope you all keep-up the great work!

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Low Quality Photograph
« on: Friday 27 June 25 18:52 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

Attached is a photograph of my x3 Great Grandfather, James Crerand (1867 - 1953), a "flax" farmer of rural Letterkenny, locally known as "Big James". I scanned this off a family history book given to me while back by the Great-Uncle, yet because this is sourced from book material, as you can see the quality obviously lacks; now looking back, I am unsure the original photograph was actually scanned, so that's another loss. If anyone could please restore it into its former-self, I would deeply appreciate it.

Regards, CForlow.  ;D

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