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Cheshire / Re: Cheshire Surname Research
« on: Thursday 22 July 04 22:38 BST (UK)  »
Hi Peter,
Got back from my short break a couple of hours ago, but couldn't wait to see if you'd managed to find anything more for me.
Now, maybe I'm just too tired to be taking this in properly, but are you saying that Ann Proctor was 'married' to this George that you found on the 1901 (?) census, and had a daughter, Harriet, aged 19 living with her?
If so, how could she be on the 1901 census, living at 32 Eldon Street Bradford Manchester with her married daughter, my ggrandmother, Hannah Joyce, and stated to be a widow, aged 54, born Wilmslow Cheshire.
Hannah and william Joyce are definitely my ggrandparents, so I presumed that Ann Proctor who was staying with them (relation to Head M in Law) had to be the right one.
Am I just confused, or am I missing something?  as I said, I'm very tired ??? so I'll take another look tomorrow. 
In the meantime, let me thank you again for all the effort you are putting into this for me.
With much appreciation,
Marie

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Cheshire / Re: Cheshire Surname Research
« on: Friday 16 July 04 14:58 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, Peter.  I'm away from tomorrow until Thursday (mini break in beautiful Bruges) so will be back in touch when I get back.
regards,
Marie

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Cheshire / Re: Cheshire Surname Research
« on: Friday 16 July 04 13:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi Peter,
Just wondering if you have had the time to further look into my READ family?  You mentioned looking for Ann MORRELL in the Wilmslow 1851 census.  Any
luck?
There seemed to be a couple of possible leads that you said you may be able to follow.
I've not yet sent for Elizabeth READ's birth certificate, but intend to do so.
Thank you so much for all the time and effort you've put into this for me. :)
best wishes,
Marie

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Cheshire / Re:Cheshire Surname Research
« on: Wednesday 07 July 04 17:00 BST (UK)  »
Hi Peter,
You are SERIOUSLY impressing me!
The address given on both Hannah and Sarah's birth certificates is Booth Terrace, Fulshaw, Wilmslow, Cheshire.
This is in both 1867 and 1873.
Anything you can come up would be wonderful.
Thanks once again,
Marie

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Cheshire / Re:Cheshire Surname Research
« on: Wednesday 07 July 04 14:01 BST (UK)  »
Hi Peter and Chris,
Peter, thanks for the latest info, but I seem to getting more confused than ever!
I received back from Macclesfield the two birth certificates I sent for on Saturday.....not bad service, eh?.....for Hannah Read and Sarah Jane Read.
They confirm that these were sisters (same parents and addresses), but they list father as Thomas Read (Hannah states that her father was JOHN Thomas Read on her marriage certificate), and mother was Ann Read, late Pallant, formerly Morrall.
The father is said to be Labourer in Brickyard (Hannah's marriage reg. states he was a brickmaker).
So, come on fellas, what are the odds that this is the family I'm searching for?
Peter, you say that Ann Read (1871 census) may have been a Peers.  In the 1901 census Hannah has her mother living with her and her husband William E, Joyce, and shes down as Ann PROCTER , widow, 54.
Where do I go from here?
You've both been so helpful, can I ask for more....grovel...grovel.
regards,
Marie ;D

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Cheshire / Re:Cheshire Surname Research
« on: Sunday 04 July 04 17:15 BST (UK)  »
Hi Peter,
I didn't have that information,  so thank you very much.  As you can probably tell, I'm pretty new to this, although I've done quite a bit of research on my Scottish ancestors (Dad's side), and it is SO much easier!
I only came across this site a couple of days ago, not really expecting much, but I'm overwhelmed by the generosity I've been shown, and I have some definite leads that, I hope, will tell me a lot more about my family history.
Thanks to you, and to Chris, again.
regards,
Marie

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Cheshire / Re:Cheshire Surname Research
« on: Saturday 03 July 04 10:39 BST (UK)  »
Chris, you truly are a star!  My mother remembers that her grandmother had a sister, Sarah Jane (Sally), who moved to London after she married, so it looks like you may have found her for me.
There's a record of a birth of a Sarah Jane Read in Wilmslow on the Cheshire BMD site, but it's for 1867, not 1869, as I would have expected from the census scan you sent me.  Still, I'm going to send for the certificate, and see where that leads me.
And you also found William Edward Joyce.....I knew he was lurking nearby, somewhere!
I can't thank you enough.
Best wishes,
Marie (Jack33)   (the odd username was my 16 year old's idea......something to do with his love of heavy rock...don't ask!)

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Cheshire / Re:Cheshire Surname Research
« on: Friday 02 July 04 23:20 BST (UK)  »
Chris, thank you SO much!  Can you make out which street she's living in?  Is she a boarder, perhaps?  Her husband (my greatgrandfather) lived in Bradford, so that must be where they met, and I'm wondering if he was nearby. :D  Thanks again,  Marie (Jack33)

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Cheshire / Re:Cheshire Surname Research
« on: Friday 02 July 04 22:25 BST (UK)  »
I have discovered that my greatgrandmother HANNAH READ was born in Wilmslow Cheshire in 1875, but, although I have her marriage certificate (she married WILLIAM E JOYCE in Oct.1891 in Manchester), and know that she died in 1929, I cannot find any trace of her family, apart from she states on her marriage certificate that her father was JOHN THOMAS READ, Brickmaker, deceased, and I found her in the 1901 census, living in Manchester with her husband and 7 year old daughter, Catherine.  But her mother is living with them and states her name to be ANN PROCTER, widow, aged 54, born Wilmslow Cheshire.
Why would her mother's name be PROCTER and not READ?  Could she have remarried after Hannah's father died?  I'm stumped and can't think what to do next.  I've tried to send for a birth certificate for HANNAH READ but Stockport register office told me they can't find her.  Anyone any suggestions, please?

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