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Carmarthenshire / Re: CWMLLETHRYD FAWR Farm 1871 Lookup
« on: Monday 27 January 25 18:26 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

Thanks for getting in contact. I found out that in 1871 that there were three variants of Cwmlltherid farm:  Ganol, Fawr and Uchaf with a Bonnell, Griffiths and Walker family living at them respectively. Henry (senior) died 17 Oct 1862 and his son William Williams and wife Mary family were now living at Colriche farm in 1871 in the same area. in 1881 William's son William was at Colchyrie Farm. In 1881 it looks like Henry Williams (grandson of Henry Williams) and his wife Louisa and family were living at Cwmllethryd Uchaf. I haven't been able to find Henry and Louisa and family in 1891 when a David Williams and family were living at Cwmllethryd uchaf.

I can't find any obvious link to a Benjamin and Eleanor (unless there is a different Cwmllethryd farm in a different area somewhere? The above is in Westfa, Felinfoel, Llanelly).

I wiil send you my contact details in case you can find a link

Hi, Are you sure it's Cwmllethryd uchaf and NOT Cwmllethryd isaf? There are two Isafs one is by the reservoir at Swiss Valley (old Llanelly)and then the other one I live in which is in Pontyberem ( old Llangynderyn parish) where Cwmllethryd uchaf is about 1/4 mile away from me. The prooerty I live in which is Cwmllethryd Isaf was once owned by Erasmus Griffies- Williams who who was the second Baronet (his father georgewas the first) of Llwynywermod in Myddfai and this was owned by the Williams family from the 13-14 century ( William Williams) with links to Anne Boleyn.  Cwmllethryd isaf (mine)dates back to around 1580 maybe earlier. I'm not sure about the other two. I don't know if this may help?

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The Common Room / Griffies williams Properties
« on: Sunday 05 January 25 18:47 GMT (UK)  »
My first post here goes,
I am trying to research a property we purchased a couple of years ago, we were told it was built around 1901 which at the time I though was rubbish. Anyway, it turns out to be much earlier and after a bit of digging it would appear to be ownd by the Griffies Williams family at the same time they owned Llwynywermod which I thought was quite interesting, I have now drawn a blank trying to research it past their ownership. I would like to try and trace it back further and see if it was part of the Llwynywermod estate. I will add we managed to get a date from the internet of 1620 through tax records but I cannot find it again (typical) so the earliest I can find with no problem is 1676.  Any ideas where to go next? As it maybe even earlier.

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