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Fife / Re: Balmain, Malcolm, William, Walter - Wemyss
« on: Wednesday 08 January 25 11:21 GMT (UK) »
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thank you for the link.
Isabelle
thank you for the link.
Isabelle
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Fife / Re: Balmain, Malcolm, William, Walter - Wemyss
« on: Monday 06 January 25 16:02 GMT (UK) »
Hello Harry
Indeed, we can find the same name with different origins. What prompted me to respond was DollyDebs' post which sais : "My Balmains according to family hearsay, originated in France but I have yet to confirm that link and it seems doubtful that I will be able to."
In the Alps, Balmain is a name that really comes from a single village. it then spread. There is a long tradition of emigration in the Alps and in particular in Saint Sorlin d'Arves. A study was made in 1930 on the population of this village between 1648 and 1758. About 50% of the population was emigrating. At that time it was rather in the bordering regions and in the nineteenth century, there was a wave of emigration much further afield: USA, Canada, Argentina, Mexico, Algeria etc. and even a wave of Savoyard teachers in Russia.
It is possible that DollyDebs' Balmains originated in France, but this does not rule out another Gaelic strain. In France, the name BALMAIN, with this spelling, is specific to St Sorlin d'Arves. It has not undergone any deformation. The other forms that can be found, such as Belmain, Bellemain, do not refer to the same family origin. That's why I was very interested to see your exchanges.
How exciting it all is!
Goodbye
Isabelle
Indeed, we can find the same name with different origins. What prompted me to respond was DollyDebs' post which sais : "My Balmains according to family hearsay, originated in France but I have yet to confirm that link and it seems doubtful that I will be able to."
In the Alps, Balmain is a name that really comes from a single village. it then spread. There is a long tradition of emigration in the Alps and in particular in Saint Sorlin d'Arves. A study was made in 1930 on the population of this village between 1648 and 1758. About 50% of the population was emigrating. At that time it was rather in the bordering regions and in the nineteenth century, there was a wave of emigration much further afield: USA, Canada, Argentina, Mexico, Algeria etc. and even a wave of Savoyard teachers in Russia.
It is possible that DollyDebs' Balmains originated in France, but this does not rule out another Gaelic strain. In France, the name BALMAIN, with this spelling, is specific to St Sorlin d'Arves. It has not undergone any deformation. The other forms that can be found, such as Belmain, Bellemain, do not refer to the same family origin. That's why I was very interested to see your exchanges.
How exciting it all is!
Goodbye
Isabelle
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Fife / Re: Balmain, Malcolm, William, Walter - Wemyss
« on: Saturday 28 December 24 12:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi. I write from France. My English is not good, I'm sorry. My name is BALMAIN. In France, all the Balmain come from the village of Saint Sorlin d'Arves in the Alps, in the department of Savoie. You mention the couturier Pierre Balmain. His grandfather was from Saint Sorlin d'Arves.
I saw on Généanet that in the 1600s there were two areas of settlement of Balmain, A Saint Sorlin d'Arves and in Scotland. I do not know how long ago this emigration took place, whether the Scotch Balmains came from France. What you have heard in your family seems to confirm this. I also saw on the Clan Ramsay website that John Ramsay of Balmain was created Lord Bothwell in 1485. The name Balmain could therefore be ancient in Scotland.
the origin of the name in France comes from Balme, which means cave. The places gave their names to the people, but the people also later gave their names to the places. I would also be curious to find the links between Savoy and Scotland but if it is very old, it may be difficult. But if there is a search to be made on the spot, which is within my possibilities, I am willing to help you. Goodbye.
I saw on Généanet that in the 1600s there were two areas of settlement of Balmain, A Saint Sorlin d'Arves and in Scotland. I do not know how long ago this emigration took place, whether the Scotch Balmains came from France. What you have heard in your family seems to confirm this. I also saw on the Clan Ramsay website that John Ramsay of Balmain was created Lord Bothwell in 1485. The name Balmain could therefore be ancient in Scotland.
the origin of the name in France comes from Balme, which means cave. The places gave their names to the people, but the people also later gave their names to the places. I would also be curious to find the links between Savoy and Scotland but if it is very old, it may be difficult. But if there is a search to be made on the spot, which is within my possibilities, I am willing to help you. Goodbye.
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