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Ireland / Re: Who are the cousins?
« on: Sunday 09 November 25 04:17 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Tara for sharing your thoughts on this!

Was the full quote re Samuel and David John plus their relation as cousins to the others on an actual headstone ?

Yes, I tried uploading the original image with this post but it doesn't seem to work.

Your post makes a lot of sense but the only thing putting a wrench in the theory (for me) is that there's another Samuel listed as a "cousin". He's the only one I wasn't able to find anything on yet...

I was initially thinking it might be David John's grandfather, moving William and others up one generation. However writing this out, I just thought that he might have more likely died young and the name was repurposed. In this case your version would still hold, and honestly make more sense.

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Ireland / Re: Who are the cousins?
« on: Sunday 09 November 25 02:44 GMT (UK)  »
https://irishconstabulary.com/researching-harbour-constable-samuel-rea-t4140.html

Not sure if this is you or not ?

Yes, that was me  ;D

William was Samuel's best man so they were obviously very close.

I think the same! Before becoming Harbour Constable, Samuel was a labourer. His father and William were farmers. I found a Samuel and William Rea in the Griffith's Valuation for the parish of Saintfield, although I don't quite know what to do with that information yet.

https://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/z/zoomifyDynamicViewer.php?file=083164&path=./pix/083/&rs=35&showpage=1&mysession=3000040331588&width=&height=

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Ireland / Re: Who are the cousins?
« on: Friday 17 October 25 13:04 BST (UK)  »
Sorry, my mistake. Thanks for pointing that out.

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Ireland / Re: Who are the cousins?
« on: Friday 17 October 25 03:14 BST (UK)  »

Thanks everyone for taking some time to look at this.

I am sure you have done this, but is this the death of William Rea to begin with?
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1906/05549/4556951.pdf

And William in 1901
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Ballynahinch/Mourne_View_Street/1224899/

Have you found all the people mentioned?

Yes, those refer to the same William!

As for the others, this is what I've pieced together from a few letters of administration and death notices from the Registrar's District of Lisburn.

Samuel Rea (the cousin) still unknown, although the Samuel Rea's (from top of gravestone) father was also Samuel, hmm...
William Rea b. 1820, d. 1906
Eliza Rea b. 1821, d. 1895
David Rea b. 1824, d. 1894
John Rea b. 1830, d. 1894

Eliza and David both left their belongings to William, David was present at John's death and died ~9 months later. William left his belongings to Samuel (from top of gravestone), even though he was staying with the Patterson family (linked above by heywood). Patterson's wife Eliza was the daughter of John McIlhone and Jane Rea (b. 1843, d. 1919).

Jane's relation is still unknown, although with her dates I think it would make sense to be Samuel's (b. 1841, d. 1908) sister. On both their marriage registrations, father is marked as Samuel (farmer). But it's all I have for now.

This is all very confusing to summarize with recurring names ;D  At present, I see 2 loose ends with William seemingly the key between both of them. What would William's relation to Samuel be, and how does Jane fit in the picture?

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Ireland / Who are the cousins?
« on: Wednesday 15 October 25 02:08 BST (UK)  »
The earliest gravestone my family has a paper trail to, located in County Down, starts with:

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Erected by
Samuel Rea and his son David J. Rea
to the memory of their cousins
William Rea,
who died 24th Oct. 1906, aged 86 years.
Also his brothers and sister
Samuel Rea, Eliza Rea,
David Rea, John Rea,
of Ballygreen Ballynahinch

In a case like this, would the "cousins" be in relation to Samuel or David John? Is it possible, given 19th century Irish terminology, that they be what we'd call Samuel's aunts and uncles? I'm grasping at straws since William would be about 20 years older than Samuel and the connection is still unknown.

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Antrim / Re: McElhone / McIlhone name issue
« on: Monday 29 September 25 03:13 BST (UK)  »
I'm sorry for the necropost, but I'm hoping to reach other's who've previously posted in this thread.

I believe my family to be related to Jane Rea and John McIlhone in some way. My working theory as of now is that my earliest known ancestor (Samuel Rea born ~1841, Harbour Constable) might have been Jane Rea's brother. There is a tombstone in Saintfield Parish Church, County Down that reads:

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Erected by
Samuel Rea and his son David J. Rea
to the memory of their cousins
William Rea,
who died 24th Oct. 1906, aged 86 years.
Also his brothers and sister
Samuel Rea, Eliza Rea,
David Rea, John Rea,
of Ballygreen Ballynahinch
---
The above Samuel Rea,
who died 15th Sept 1908.
Also his wife Mary Robb,
who died 28th Nov. 1915.
Also their daughter Eliza Rea,
who died 11th March 1899, aged 19 years.

I was able to find the above William Rea in the 1901 census records, where he lived with John Beattie Patterson and Eliza Rea McIlhone (sister of Samuel Rea McIlhone and William James McIlhone discussed above). William was a farmer, never married or had any kids. Upon his death, he left his effects to Samuel Rea.

Samuel (married to Mary Robb) and his son David John (married to Sara Jane Ferguson) lived in Belfast, with David eventually moving to Canada with his family.

Samuel Rea is currently our brick wall, all we know from his marriage record is his father was a farmer also named Samuel Rea.

I'd love to be able to confirm the relation between Samuel and Jane Rea as it'd be a significant addition to our family tree.

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