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Cork / Re: George OLLIFFE ca 1825
« on: Thursday 17 April 25 11:03 BST (UK)  »
Shawn,

Thank you for all the work you've done. I agree with the points you make.

Unlike you, I am not related to the OLLIFFE family. I've researched both mine and my wife's families as far as I can, but I enjoy the 'hunt' so I'm helping a very good friend, who was adopted at birth into that family. I'm also following her natural family, but that's another story.

If you think I might be able to help, I should be delighted to co-operate, but I am very much an amateur.

George

Thanks for your quick reply George. I understand what it means to help others with the 'hunt'. I've been researching my own family history since the early 1990's, and then discovered who my biological father was in late 1990's, and I've been on that trail since. When I've exhausted that search I often move on to helping others as well. With years of experience it has become a much loved hobby and pastime that often leads me to looking at many of the families tied to the same localities. You might be surprised by the insight gained when becoming familiar with not only one particular family, but others as well in these communities. Local histories are also very helpful to gain insight. The picture broadens and sometimes unexpected gleanings present a clearer picture.

If you look closely at the 'Sources' and 'Memories' files I've attached to both Robert Olliffe and Lydia Seymour, there is much more to see with regards to local names and neighboring plots. Of course this is time consuming but I've cropped and modified images so the information can be seen as clear as possible. The number of hours I've spent might be unimaginable to some as most people would not have the time to do this. It's nice to see that people are looking at what I've shared and it's been a pleasant surprise to come across this message thread and read the discussions.

At this point there's nothing more to add to this family tree that's verifiable. I have a ton of Olliffe bits a pieces that are most likely related and I can only hope more information comes to light in the coming years. The Brinny parish record would be most helpful I believe, if it contains what is listed in it's description, but those records are in Ireland and I am in Canada. It would be necessary to visit the RCB Library in Dublin to view these records:

https://www.churchofireland.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegisters/ABC/BrinnyParishRegisterList.pdf

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Cork / Re: George OLLIFFE ca 1825
« on: Thursday 17 April 25 09:56 BST (UK)  »
I notice that both families have a daughter Lydia Mary.
Have you investigated the death of Lydia Olliffe in Whitechapel district in 1862? according to GRO she was aged 71 when she died.

Yes, this is Lydia Olliffe the widow of Robert Olliffe. The family left Ireland sometime after the famine and settled in this area of (London) England. You'll find Lydia in the 1861 census residing with her daughter "Bessie" (nickname for Elizabeth) and son-in-law John Burchill in Tower Hamlets "mother in law". Lydia died and was buried in Tower Hamlets in 1862. I've provided images of both census and burial in 'Sources' for Lydia Maria Seymour here:

https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/sources/L27J-9LW

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Cork / Re: George OLLIFFE ca 1825
« on: Thursday 17 April 25 09:04 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

Much of the information you have been referring to on Family Search has been provided by me and you'll see that I almost always provided a 'Source' with image along with the information I attach, and you'll see my username 'smacguf' where I do. I would be leery of accepting information you find on Family Search without 'Source' information provided, particularly by "Phyllis Hobbs_1'. I have had communication with Phyllis to request source information for many dates she has attached to this Olliffe family tree and her reply to me was "I don't know". That said, some of the dates are actually quite fitting, however I don't accept these until I see where they've come from, even if that happens to be family notes, such as old bible entries, notes on old photos etc..

The key to learning more about Robert Olliffe and Lydia Maria Seymour I believe will be within the Brinny Parish Transcripts, which are currently held in Dublin if I remember correctly. These transcripts are NOT available online unfortunately at this time.

George Olliffe and Thomasine Good are my 2nd great grandparents through my biological father, who was an Olliffe and I have been tracing this family since the early 2000's. I have much more, but speculative information regarding Olliffes (also Oliffe, Olive, Auliffe etc.) from areas surrounding Brinny, such as 'Little Silver' (Kilbrogan parish), Kilpatrick (Brinny), Clashanimud (Brinny) and Lissanisky (Knockavilly parish).

As mentioned in this thread there are a number of Olliffes found in the St. Finbarr's parish transcripts with dates that are also very fitting. Unfortunately there is little evidence to verify a connection. I've noted that there is a small part of St. Finbarr's parish that is separate from the main parish in Cork City and that is within close proximity to Brinny and Knockavilly parishes.

I'd love to hear from anyone researching this Olliffe family who wishes to collaborate, share or even debate findings.

Shawn

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Cork / Re: Nash of Glanmire Cork
« on: Monday 09 December 24 06:52 GMT (UK)  »

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Cork / Re: Nash of Glanmire Cork
« on: Thursday 21 November 24 00:03 GMT (UK)  »
Not related but I found this newspaper letter about my relative, written by Samuel A. Nash of Lake Lodge. Samuel (son of Joseph) married Margaret Anne Stoker in 1884, Co. Cork. They are found in Shropshire, England 1901 Census [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSQ8-KF4].

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