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Norfolk / Re: First man executed at Norwich Prison
« on: Friday 14 February 25 09:41 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Kirsty
Is there a way of doing this less publicly?  Facebook then Messenger comes to mind. It would be good to speak. Bob

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Norfolk / Re: First man executed at Norwich Prison
« on: Thursday 06 February 25 19:56 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Kirsty
Thanks so much for responding!!
I’m Bob. Interestingly my brother Ian -who together with his wife Claire joined us at Sophia’s grave -has a daughter Kirsty.
When we visited Sophia’s grave Gill and I said some words in our Path and Ian and Claire said a Christian prayer and then we went for some lunch. We understand that Father Paulinus Heggs said a prayer over George’s burial place and- in the absence on duty of the Pagan Chaplain  - said my words.  Forgive and be Forgiven.   We think it was Thomas who saw the murder. All of this was kept away from me and my brothers and I’m not sure what my Dad knew.  All kept silent but -as Mark Wolynn’s  ‘it didn’t begin with you’ makes clear - nothing needs to be said. There are three generations of anxiety and depression
Alexander (Jim) and Don persuaded the pilot of a plane they repaired to take them for a joyride. And then -despite the fact that the plane couldn’t do it- to perform some aerobatics. It crashed and all were killed.
We are glad Sophia’s grave is visited. It looks loved - did you find a homemade circlet of ivy and rosemary when you last visited?  I’m giving up driving because everyone drives so fast nowadays so we will not visit again. We respect all Paths and Faiths so, in addition to your word and prayers, would you say our words? 
You are right about the Watt family bearing a burden of guilt. I have heard other stories but can’t recount them because of trespassing on other lives.
The graves of executed prisoners need to be marked. We went to the National Memorial Arboretum a couple of years ago and saw that the Shot at Dawn memorial is respected. Prisoners’ graves should equally be respected.
Bright Blessings to you and your Family
Bob

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Somerset / Neonatal burials Weston super Mare
« on: Tuesday 19 November 24 21:05 GMT (UK)  »
Does anyone know where babies that died soon after birth were usually buried in Weston Super Mare? My sister was born prematurely in Weston General Hospital in 1945 and only lived for 19 hours. I’d like to know where she might have been buried. I’m assuming that she would have to have been buried as her birth and death are both recorded. I’m also assuming that the grave is unmarked in anyway as my mother was on her own, dad being a soldier was elsewhere.

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Norfolk / Re: First man executed at Norwich Prison
« on: Tuesday 19 November 24 13:12 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
George (aka in the literature, William, Jim but please see below) Watt was my direct line great-grandfather.  One of his children witnessed the murder of their mother Sophia.  There is good reason to believe that the child was my grandfather Thomas - whom I remember.  Thomas' eldest surviving son (the two elder sons were killed in a WW2 prank which went badly wrong) was my father Peter Watt.  Peter's middle name was Marston - but he always said he didn't know why - 'it is a family name').  I do not think that George was known as Jim or James for two reasons - the famous James Watt was an ancestor, and one of my dead uncles was called Jim. 
Of course, the execution took place at Mousehold Heath Prison - which is still in operation.  Executed prisoners were buried within the precincts (as far as I can see this is still the law - there was an attempt to reverse it when it became clear that Timothy Evans (10 Rillington Place) was innocent - but Timothy Evans was pardoned (and reburied in a Catholic cemetery) and the Bill failed with the change of government in the '60s). So it is impossible to visit George's gravesite - even if he is still there, many prisoner's bodies were stolen by the warders and sold for anatomisation. There may be an identifiable site. 
One of my brothers and I are going to visit Sophia's grave next month.  (Our other brother will not acknowledge the events in any way). There is a history of family trauma stretching back to the murder - and possibly beyond.  Thomas was a Private in HM Royal Marines in WW1 and left with the usual WW1 medals and a Long Service and Good Conduct medal.  Peter was a Royal Hospital School boy - which meant he joined the Navy at 11 and was on active service at 16 (Freetown Convoy Escort on HMS Frobisher). He left the Navy after Korea - so he had a full set of campaign Medals - including the Burma Star - for being on a ship which evacuated PoWs from Burma.  Many members of the family were prison officers - both civilian and glasshouse.  Peter was not - he was an electrician - but very much of the 'flog 'em and hang 'em' persuasion.  Looking back he clearly had - unsurprisingly- some form of PTSD.
My brother and I follow different spiritual paths but we intend to say our own forms of words and prayers over Sophia's grave.  I am trying to arrange a Chaplain (who can acknowledge different Paths) to say words and prayers over George's burial place.
I will use my words here in the hope that members of the Watt and Marston lines can agree.

Hail and Welcome to all present; seen and unseen, tangible and intangible.
We come in peace and fellowship.
We call upon George and Sophia to loose all chains of sadness and bitterness,
To forgive and be forgiven,
Let all depart in peace and fellowship,
Hail and Farewell.

I am sure my brother will use a Christian prayer which we can all acknowledge as another Path
(as Kipling wrote
'All ye who tread the Narrow Way,
By Tophet flare to Judgement Day
Be mindful ...)
Blessings upon all who read these words
Bob

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