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The Common Room / Liverpool: Beatles connections?
« on: Monday 09 June 25 09:25 BST (UK)  »
Just wondering whether any of you who have Liverpudlian ancestors (like me) have connections to, eg your ancestors lived next door to, or close to, any of the Beatles' families? I would love to say "my great grandfather lived in next door to John Lennon's grandmother", or "my grandma lived in the same street as Ringo Star's father" or something along those lines... There would need to be some kind of resource listing all the addresses of the various Beatles families going back 2 or 3 generations, but not sure if anything like that exists.
Interesting to think about though  :)

Steve

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The Common Room / Re: How old is this building?
« on: Wednesday 04 June 25 09:07 BST (UK)  »
Slightly off the main topic, but here is a photo from 1919 (from the Liverpool Echo). It used to be a larger building: looks like half of it has now been demolished...

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The Common Room / Re: How old is this building?
« on: Monday 02 June 25 08:35 BST (UK)  »
I did notice that yes Andy :) Looking in the street directories though, number 32 is always in the block between Hotham & Pudsey streets. Either number 34 was also a drapers business at some point in its history, or the whole thing is a spooky coincidence...

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The Common Room / Re: How old is this building?
« on: Sunday 01 June 25 21:19 BST (UK)  »
Agree with Alan's post above, that the Blind School can't have been demolished because of the expansion of Lime Street station: wikipedia says that the station was expanded in the 1840s and completed by 1849.
And perhaps the school building, or parts of it, did survive into the 1860s ...

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The Common Room / Re: How old is this building?
« on: Sunday 01 June 25 09:40 BST (UK)  »
Have just had another look through Gore's directory and it looks like my Gr Gr Grandfather started using 32 London road around 1868. If the current building dates roughly to 1870-1900, that's on the edge, or just outside, that timeframe...
Also had a look at the history of the Liverpool Blind School, there's some info here:
https://historyof.place/location/liverpool-school-for-the-indigent-blind
It says that the school in London road was definitely demolished in 1851 and moved to Harman street. The town plan from 1848 (revised 1864) still shows the school in its old location: am wondering if when the map was revised only parts of it were revised?
Anyway, presumably when the school was demolished in 1851 another building (predecessor of the current one) was put up. Assuming the warehouse was brand new when my Gr Gr Grandfather moved in around 1868/69, that 1851 building would have been demolished after only about 17 years - unlikely perhaps?
So I'm thinking maybe the current building dates from the 1880s or thereabouts, meaning it was not my Gr Gr Grandfather's warehouse, but who knows...

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The Common Room / Re: How old is this building?
« on: Saturday 31 May 25 21:35 BST (UK)  »
You did! Thanks Alan  :)

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The Common Room / Re: How old is this building?
« on: Saturday 31 May 25 21:00 BST (UK)  »
Thanks so much for all the interesting replies: it seems like the consensus is that the current building certainly could have been there in the 1870s. My interest in it is that my Gr Gr Grandfather John Lloyd ran a business called Lloyd & Co from the late 1860s, until 1880 when it went bankrupt. The firm was variously described as "drapers", "tailors and outfitters", or "manufacturers of artificial flowers dealers in trimmings and fancy goods". 32 London road was his trimming warehouse.
I know a fair bit about him, helped very much by a previous post on here: https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=886127.msg7594000#msg7594000
I was fascinated to know if any of his premises had survived: his main residence at 24 Oxford street is still there (the terrace that it's in is a grade 2 listed building!) Another shop that he had at 14 Mill street seems to have long gone.

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The Common Room / How old is this building?
« on: Saturday 31 May 25 10:54 BST (UK)  »
My Gr Gr Grandfather owned a warehouse at 32 London road, Liverpool (England) in the 1870s. This is the building that occupies the same spot in the present day. Just wondering if it looks old enough to date from that period: does anyone know?

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Australia / Re: Drunk and disorderly: further info?
« on: Sunday 08 December 24 04:04 GMT (UK)  »
Yes it does look like Robert came out of retirement after Thomas was sent away, and yes must have been involved in sheep also. When Maddy's article says he bought sheep in Scotland to sell in Liverpool, that makes sense because he was originally from Annan Scotland and obviously still had connections there.

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