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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Looking for 1877 Marriage Records - Blyton/Devereux
« on: Thursday 05 September 24 15:16 BST (UK)  »
Thank you @Dizzifish!

I had read that bio on him from the Devereux website years ago. It quotes my grandfather, Clifford Scott. I suspect that the story is full of half-truths, but it may be a direction to go in. I mean, I don't think he's a direct descendant of Robert Devereux, Earl of Essex. And the pony express was only active from 1860-61, and it is not hard to look up the employee lists (and he's not on them that I can find). But it's worth looking at these leads, in any case. Thank you for that reminder!

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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Looking for 1877 Marriage Records - Blyton/Devereux
« on: Thursday 05 September 24 15:08 BST (UK)  »
Are there no parents named on his death certificate?  It is indexed on Ancestry as Arthur J DEURENX.

Debra  :)

Thank you for finding that!

I don't trust anything about this man... the parents listed have the same names as his children, which makes me suspicious. But it is a start!

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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Looking for 1877 Marriage Records - Blyton/Devereux
« on: Thursday 05 September 24 12:47 BST (UK)  »
I have been emailing a common relative who says that Arthur said he'd come to the US during the Civil War (1861) and joined the army under an assumed name. He was also reported to have spent time traveling around the world, to India and Australia, before settling down. Arthur's daughter was also sure that he'd lied about his birth year and that he was 10 or so years older than he actually was (1842 vs 1832).

I'm not sure how to trace someone who used an assumed name...

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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Looking for 1877 Marriage Records - Blyton/Devereux
« on: Wednesday 04 September 24 18:45 BST (UK)  »
This could be part of the reason for the declaration by Josiah Swift. Other records show Arthur already in the USA.

I'm curious what you see showing him in the US. I have not found anything definitive.

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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Looking for 1877 Marriage Records - Blyton/Devereux
« on: Wednesday 04 September 24 18:42 BST (UK)  »
I've just ordered a DNA test. My mother - granddaughter of Robert T Devereux - took one but wasn't able to make sense of the results. I'm hoping that mine is a little more clear.

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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Looking for 1877 Marriage Records - Blyton/Devereux
« on: Wednesday 04 September 24 18:30 BST (UK)  »
The baptism record for Robert T. Devereux is from Jan 1883... maybe they left soon afterwards?

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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Looking for 1877 Marriage Records - Blyton/Devereux
« on: Wednesday 04 September 24 18:15 BST (UK)  »
I think your Arthur may have married in a registry office or registrar attended so you may need to purchase the certificate. 

Marriage locator has this information - Sorry, we cannot locate the church for this marriage. The entry is located between entries for Nottingham RO/NC and Nottingham St Barnabas RC, both in RD Nottingham.

Apologies - do you know how to find this office? I am located in New York and my Google searches are giving me locations in New Hampshire.  ::)

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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Looking for 1877 Marriage Records - Blyton/Devereux
« on: Wednesday 04 September 24 18:11 BST (UK)  »
Wow! You two have found quite a lot! (Apologies as well - I'm home with a cold and may not make a lot of sense)

I had also bumped into Arthur Llewellyn Devereux but they seem to be different people.

I am a descendant of Robert Trafford Devereux. As far as I know, there were just two children: Robert and Helena. I had also wondered if perhaps Arthur's mother was a Trafford and had him out of wedlock. Maybe the father was a Devereux, and so Arthur used the surname as his own? I found a fatherless baby Arthur Trafford baptised in Rainow in April 1845. Maybe that's him?

I have a feeling that the immigration records are not so reliable; the dates change and it appears that he was living in Nottingham around 1880.

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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Looking for 1877 Marriage Records - Blyton/Devereux
« on: Wednesday 04 September 24 15:52 BST (UK)  »
Hello!

I am trying to find information on an ancestor of mine, Arthur Devereux. He married Betsy/Betsey/Betsie Blyton of Maplebeck, Nottinghamshire in April 1877 in Nottingham. I have found this record in the Civil Registration Marriage Index, which is a typed list and gives not much more information than that the date and name of the couple.

I am looking for more information on the marriage, specifically information on Arthur Devereux's origins. He is listed on various later censuses as being born sometime between 1832-1845 and was from Middlesex. I have found 2 or more boys with this name born in Middlesex around that time. Family lore is that he had an upper class accent, but it appears that he worked as a fruitier and later a gardener and a landscape architect after he left for the US, so the accent may have been adopted or affected.

In any case, I'm hoping that the marriage records might list parents for him.

Many thanks!

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