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US Lookup Requests / Re: William & Catherine Sullivan (nee O'Shea) of Greenwich Village
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Morning!
Wow, you are fast! I'm still working through the ideas of early yesterday. Here's what I worked on in no particular order.
More Children:
Kate correctly reported the # of children until the last son Harold's birth cert. For what that's worth.
I've scoured NYC Historical Vital Stats searching for birth certs for Ed, Helen, Lillian & Celia in the past. This time I searched "Sullivan" 1882-1905 and reviewed obvious names + variations + Male & Female for parents William & Kate. Anna Sullivan, b. 25 Nov. 1895 is too close to Kathleen/Catherine's b. 10 Sep 1895. However, I only have the NY state index to identify Kath/Cath's birth (note: at Cedar Point, NY? so I'm not confident). Anna's address would add another location but they moved often. Elizabeth Sullivan, b. 23 May 1891 is the best possibility. I'll hold on to these and reach out to cousins for recollections as we've never known about more than the 8.
FultonsHistory
Wonderful resource! Brilliant finding William "H" Sullivan. Details all match - both the street and son Harold shot by the police. It's the first I've seen of William Sr!! I've searched Newspapers.com desperate for an Obit but no luck. Also added articles about Harold's death. I had some but these helped make sense of some family lore (the speak-easy).
William "H" did make me doublecheck William's middle name. William Jr's birth cert clearly includes "John" and the Jr so I'll assume it's a typo.
JohnGrenham
I tested the surnames overlap and looked to Cork (my dna suggests Munster: SW Munster and several areas of Cork). Sullivan/Simpson might have overlapped in Ballyfoly or St Anne Shanalon Parishes. Just noticed I crossed the wrong surnames. I should have used Simpson/Shea. I'll try today
Marriages
Thank you for the marriage certs for Kathleen and Fred (from this I'll assume Kathleen is her correct name not Catherine). I'd found William Jr & Marion's. Incidentally, their son Harold Edward was baptized at Judson but the church had a fire and the records were lost. I'd still love to find William & Catherine's marriage. Hoping it would lead me to a location for their parents.
stevemorse.org & the Jul 1873 passenger list
I did go down the rabbit hole of this passenger list. It certainly seemed to work. I tried to follow Timothy & family but I started to get twisted around. Meanwhile you all kept researching Jeremiah and Sarah. I'm going to abandon this and jump in to catch up on all the work you've done on Jeremiah & Sarah, and Maria today.
Mt Olivet Cemetery.
A couple months ago I found an obscure website https://www.thornesmith.net/contact.html dedicated to Celia's husband Thorne Smith. Here I found the cemetery map. I phoned Mt Olivet and they confirmed Celia, Thorne, Kathleen, Fred, William & Catherine are buried together, and all their b. & d. dates. I wasn't confident about William Srs Death cert in NYC Historical Vital Stats. It shows his occupation as Food Inspector for Bellview Hospital. All census data shows he was a shipping clerk. However, Mt Olivet matched the dates so I began to believe. Adding you're insight about the reporter (in this case Lillian) not correctly remembering William's parent's names has really made me feel confident... and then article! Thank you
Next:
Today I'll follow up on all your brilliant work about Maria and Jeremiah/Sarah. I'm really excited to follow your trail! I can't thank you enough.
And I'll report back
Diane
Wow, you are fast! I'm still working through the ideas of early yesterday. Here's what I worked on in no particular order.
More Children:
Kate correctly reported the # of children until the last son Harold's birth cert. For what that's worth.
I've scoured NYC Historical Vital Stats searching for birth certs for Ed, Helen, Lillian & Celia in the past. This time I searched "Sullivan" 1882-1905 and reviewed obvious names + variations + Male & Female for parents William & Kate. Anna Sullivan, b. 25 Nov. 1895 is too close to Kathleen/Catherine's b. 10 Sep 1895. However, I only have the NY state index to identify Kath/Cath's birth (note: at Cedar Point, NY? so I'm not confident). Anna's address would add another location but they moved often. Elizabeth Sullivan, b. 23 May 1891 is the best possibility. I'll hold on to these and reach out to cousins for recollections as we've never known about more than the 8.
FultonsHistory
Wonderful resource! Brilliant finding William "H" Sullivan. Details all match - both the street and son Harold shot by the police. It's the first I've seen of William Sr!! I've searched Newspapers.com desperate for an Obit but no luck. Also added articles about Harold's death. I had some but these helped make sense of some family lore (the speak-easy).
William "H" did make me doublecheck William's middle name. William Jr's birth cert clearly includes "John" and the Jr so I'll assume it's a typo.
JohnGrenham
I tested the surnames overlap and looked to Cork (my dna suggests Munster: SW Munster and several areas of Cork). Sullivan/Simpson might have overlapped in Ballyfoly or St Anne Shanalon Parishes. Just noticed I crossed the wrong surnames. I should have used Simpson/Shea. I'll try today
Marriages
Thank you for the marriage certs for Kathleen and Fred (from this I'll assume Kathleen is her correct name not Catherine). I'd found William Jr & Marion's. Incidentally, their son Harold Edward was baptized at Judson but the church had a fire and the records were lost. I'd still love to find William & Catherine's marriage. Hoping it would lead me to a location for their parents.
stevemorse.org & the Jul 1873 passenger list
I did go down the rabbit hole of this passenger list. It certainly seemed to work. I tried to follow Timothy & family but I started to get twisted around. Meanwhile you all kept researching Jeremiah and Sarah. I'm going to abandon this and jump in to catch up on all the work you've done on Jeremiah & Sarah, and Maria today.
Mt Olivet Cemetery.
A couple months ago I found an obscure website https://www.thornesmith.net/contact.html dedicated to Celia's husband Thorne Smith. Here I found the cemetery map. I phoned Mt Olivet and they confirmed Celia, Thorne, Kathleen, Fred, William & Catherine are buried together, and all their b. & d. dates. I wasn't confident about William Srs Death cert in NYC Historical Vital Stats. It shows his occupation as Food Inspector for Bellview Hospital. All census data shows he was a shipping clerk. However, Mt Olivet matched the dates so I began to believe. Adding you're insight about the reporter (in this case Lillian) not correctly remembering William's parent's names has really made me feel confident... and then article! Thank you
Next:
Today I'll follow up on all your brilliant work about Maria and Jeremiah/Sarah. I'm really excited to follow your trail! I can't thank you enough.
And I'll report back
Diane
