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Hey Goggy, It was wonderful to see the old cottage it is a bit more modernized and probably worth a fortune now but the ivy growing up the wall which my mum talked about when a little girl was still there and the farm in the fields where she had to go for milk. the Top Lock Pub where my grandfather must have had a pint or two, I sat inside and just had the feeling of closeness of belonging. wish he could have walked in the door we could have sung a few Irish songs.........

Hi Guys, You are an inspiration, I think it maybe the Manchester ship canal. That is were I shall start anyway. I know he did live at Whittle-le-Woods and when I came over last month we went to the canal there and the pub right on the canal was "Top Lock"  and just across was Copthurst Cottage where he lived and was a boater. So maybe before the cottage he lived on the boat and that is why the children are born along the canal. Thank you once again for your continued interest. It is good to bounce off others ideas.  Onya

Hi Chris, Thomas & Ellen had 5 children Mary eldest born Pendleton,Thomas born Salford,Florence, my grandmother,born Manchester Ellen, born Gorton and William, born Pendleton. My brother is NZ seems to think he came from County Wicklow.
Sorry I have been so long, but just got back from Uk and Lemnos Island were my husbands grandfather is buried from injuries in Galipolli. It was very moving and the graves are tended to beautifully. We buried a piece of carved Wigan coal. Appropriate, as he was a miner even though he was only 22yrs.

babyboomer Wher would I find verseers books and what is ag labs?

Onya christopher, I am afriad I am only just beginning the Irish trail.So it looks as though I will have to find the needle in the haystack. Kindest Regards for your comments. Vivian