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There is an Abstract Will for Joseph Torr, he was not on my radar until I found another associated document at York Explore ...

CEM/4/10
9th October 1777
Receipt for legacy of £5 chargable upon hereditaments at Gate Fulford devised by will to Rebecca Torr. Receipt from Joseph Torr to Thomas Doeg and Rebecca, his wife.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/48657e94-0338-4d21-bf9b-63a388e5204d

1811
Abstract of the Will of Joseph Torr, Farmer of Scrooby, Nottinghamshire. Proved in the Court of York.
It says In the Court of Nottingham on the scan of the Abstract document.

Cat Ref: IR 26/435/81

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7211647

Off to have a look, thank you, Mark

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Thanks Haines

Managed to find some Births now at Scrooby, Nottinghamshire:-

1739 Rebekah Torr Daughter of Jaboel & Mary Torr of Scrooby.

1740 Joseph Torr the Son of Jaboel & Mary his Wife at Scrooby.

1742 John Torr the Son of Jaboel & Mary his Wife at Scrooby.

1745 Ann Torr the Daughter of Jaboel & Mary his Wife.

1746 Phebe the Daughter of Jaboel & Mary Torr.

Looks like possibly their Son, John Torr, possibly at Etna Furnace, Philadelphia, West Jersey.

It seems Etna Furnace, can be spelt Aetna Furnace too, if I have found the right place.

Mark

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Sorry, I meant to put this on the USA Board and clicked the next link


Hello

I found this description on UK The National Archives, website (held at Explore Archives, York, England) ... 

CEM/4/9
10 June 1775

Release of Tithe to purchased hereditaments at Gate Fulford legatees under will of Rebecca Pacey of York, widow, 27 November 1773. Released to John Robinson of Stockton-on-Tees, Durham, grocer and Ann, his wife. John Torr of Etna Furnace near Philadelphia West Jersey, yeoman, Mary Armitage of Selby, spinster, William Tuke of York, grocer and Thomas Priestman (Priestmran) of St Margaret in parish of St Olave, York, tanner. The people named in the second part acknowledge that they have received their legacies out of a sum of £6.32. The first part release to Wm. Tuke (Trustee of Rebecca, wife of Thomas Doeg and formerly Rebecca Torr), their estate in messuage, tenement or dwelling house and garth in Gate Fulford.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/e8493c20-2157-4630-8f65-a67e0ac23eb8


1) I am interested if and how John Torr of Etna Furnace near Philadelphia West Jersey, yeoman, relates to Jaboel Torr of Scrooby, Nottinghamshire (Notts), England, UK, please?

2) Also if any link to TORR of Hatfield, Yorkshire, or that locality in Yorkshire, please?

I noticed that Jaboel Torr, of Scrooby, Nottinghamshire, in England, UK, was a Quaker and his Daughters:-

Phebe TORR married James BUCK

Rebecca TORR married Thomas DOEG.

Ann TORR of Stockton (Daughter of Jaboel and Mary TORR of Scrooby, Notts) married John ROBINSON of Stockton, Durham (Son of William and Sarah Robinson of Kirby Moorside, Yorkshire).

Thank you, Mark

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Hello Dave

I am very sorry to hear about your Brother's Wife.


1797 Luddington Burials
Joan Widow of Richard Cook Lab'r March 24th.

This Selby situation is a bit like the lack of detail in the Newcastle records too, where a bit more detail back then, is all that is needed now.

Failing that, we are left with:-

Names of the children of James Hood & Sarah Arundel.
Suggestion in the 1815 Marriage notice that George Hood may have been local.
The 1841 Census for Birth in the same County.
A definite branch from my line, Evelyn Hood Marshall in 1906 has definitely married into the same Grubb Family, that a child and grandchild of Maudland Turner (nee Hood) married into.
Witness names at marriages.

Mark

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LM, don't forget your summer hat and hopefully not too hot for you, with a cool breeze off the coast and some refreshing drinks.

Mark

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Thanks LM, I understand how your husband feels.

The trouble is, something keeps triggering my immune system and was given strict instructions in 2021 not to use any medication etc., that will interfere with it.

I'm eating a diet that tends to calm ('modulate' is the term) the immune system, rather than rev it up.

Because an immune response that is too strong can cause accute organ failure and problems, or if it goes on for too long, cause long term failure and problems.

Mark

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My clothes are usually not fit for charity shops, they have been worn out!

My tops and any shirts, end up as my night  (bed shirts) modern washing machines keep them fresh, but they are just a bit worn around the collar.

I kept getting a perfume smell in my bed recently, but no lady has graced my bed for a while. It was coming from some underarm roll on deodrant and smell has gone since I have moved it.

Mrs P, has sold up and moved away.

Anyway I won't be going on holiday when I read headlines like this:-

Our dream holiday was ruined by hotel shoot-out

Queues at airports, stress of flying and turbulance (I'm not a flyer at all). A neighbour who looks healthy, fit and clean (her house looks spotless from the outside and I bet the inside is too), in her 50s said recently that she always picks something up now and comes back ill.

There are some beautiful places and walks right on my doorstep and why do I want all that travel stress.

A family member was killed in a military air crash and they can stick it!

I did all that abroad stuff when I was 18 to 25. I went on Inter Rail too all round Europe, also did week-ends to Holland and Belgium and France. A couple of Islands in the Med., the Isle of Man too, about 20 times and some most beautiful and remote places in Scotland and also Wales!

London, Paris, Nice, France, the French  Riviera, Rome, Florence, Pisa, Austria, Holland, Begium, Germany, seen the street entertainers (where we were warned beforehand, so some on the trip stayed in the Hotel), those of us who went had an absolutely great Summer's evening in our shirt sleeves and no they didn't get my wallet and nobody there pulled a gun either like a few weeks before.

The Police kept a presence with guns though.

Stood and walked on a frozen Glacier in Austria and did our tour of New Zealand, twice, etc.

When we got on one long train it was overcrowed and after we crossed the border into Italy everyone with their luggage was ordered off the train by Police with automatic weapons and we stood on the platform in the summer evening heat wondering what was going on. Then another locomotive with about 10 more coaches coupled onto the back. The train was now massive in length and the same Police told us we could get back on.

We were invited into or to strangers homes who were obviously well heeled and given drinks, today you couldn't do that!

When we asked this French chap why he had showed us hospitality, he said I could see you were English with rucksacks, that his Wife was English and had held a job in the government, she had passed away, he was a Pensioner and it looked like we needed a cool drink and he wanted a chat.

In Venice we went to a religious meeting of ours and this family invited us back and they had a beautiful waterfront home with cool marble floors, but sitting out on their terrace with sun screens, having a meal and drinks was most memorable and they took us out on their motor launch for an evening trip afterward.

When your immune system goes out of balance for an extended time after an illness I had actually recovered from and it causes secondary infections and upsets the functioning of organs, blood pressure, blood flow, I've decided to go for the avoidance option. I won't take anything if there is a possibility of certain reactions, rather than the live for today attitude.

My GP says to me, you keep doing what your doing, so I don't risk mixing in the crowd, but hey I have some great memories and even with my Wife leaving I have some great and wonderful memories with her too.

It was sad that she decided to move away, but I can't get sad, because I'm alive and even though I have to monitor and watch out for this or that, re my health, I can still communicate, developed a taste for nice natural foods and go for walks.

Life is what it is  :)

Take care all and I hope those suffering get well, or can get their conditions stable.

All the best, Mark

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Thanks Dave

1736/1737
A Register of the Baptisms in the Parish of Fishlake

8th Jan'y, Jane Dr. Of Christopher Cockin, Husbandman.


1838, 16th April at Barnby Dun
The burial of a Jane here was the Daughter of Allan Cockin.

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Here is an interesting Marriage (but looking for other possibles):-

1760 Luddington, Lincs 16th October
By Banns

Richard COOK of this Parish &
Joanna COCKIN of (blank, no Parish or place given)
Wits: William Tyler ; Jonathan Fletcher

Amended:
The reference to the Fletcher surname was a separate search.

Added:
I think you said recently Dave, that Joan was used for Jane?

Mark

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William COCKIN of the parish of Snaith bachelor and Ann ROBINSON of this parish (Hatfield) spinster

married after Banns 12 June 1830 by Thomas Fox, minister

William Cockin signed, Ann Robinson left her mark

Witnesses: John ? ? -orth and William COOKE

Witness John Hepworth

William Cockin third child of Aran and Ann Cockin bpt 16 Feb. 1806, born: 3 Jan. 1806
Hatfield, father a labourer of Stainforth.

No marriage I can see for the parents just a record of the Banns
Araan Cockin of Hatfield Parish and Ann Wilkinson of the parish of Everton, November 1797.

1853
The 1853 Marriage at Misterton, Notts of
William Cockin of Goole, Mariner (Father, John Cockin, Mariner) and
Martha Pearson, Spinster of West Stockwith (Father, William Pearson, Mariner)

1850
Fortunately, the Master's Certificate of John Cockin, Mariner, survives, along with his Return and says:-

According to the back of his Service which John Cockin had passed to the Merchant Seaman Office, he had failed to give his Birth and they wouldn't issue him with a Master Certificate to begin with and it was returned, which he then completes.

I request that my Certificate may be transmitted to the Custom House of the Port of GOOLE. Signed John Cockin

John Cockin, Mariner, was born Stainforth, Yorkshire on 24 April 1798 [in the Parish of Hatfield]

1799, 9th June
Baptism Hatfield BT says:-
John, Aaron Cockin of Stainforth Labr, Ann [of] Jno Wilkinson Tickhill.
Same entry next line
Harriet illegitimate of Eliz Cockin late of Doncaster.

1798 Everton, Nottinghamshire
23rd November
Aaron Cockin of Stainforth in the Parish of Hatfield
Ann Wilkinson of this Parish of Everton Spinster.
Wit's: John Kent ; Benj Fullwood.

1837 Burial at Hatfield
Aaron Cockin, Abode Stainforth, Buried 30 April, 76 y'rs, by T. Fox.

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The two James Cockin signatures (for comparison) with George Hood's 1815 Marriage witness James Cockin (where there is a pause in the forming of the k, at Selby, Yorks are:-

1791 Thorne, Yorkshire
James Cockin and Mary Torr
Wits: John Cockin ; Susana Cortham
[Susy Coatem signed Sussy Coatham married Wm Green in 1793 at Thorne]

1789 South Cave, by Banns
James Cockin of this Parish Bachelor
Frances Corner, Spinster of ye same
Wits:- John Jenkinson ; John Wilson

According to the Register note underneath this marriage it says:-  "the above sent to Court"

James Cockin of Stainforth was later in York Castle, accused of Sheep Stealing and I've wondered if the marriage related to the sheep thief. Joseph Rowbottom was co accused.

James Cockin, was discharged.

Added:-
No, (or not directly), the case was in 1836 and the newspaper said he was 40. Unless he was trying to prove a family link, to get a lighter sentence.

Added:-
Interesting that when John Cockin was born in 1858, his parents William Cockin, a a Seaman (Merchant Service) and Martha (nee Pearson) his Wife, lived at Rowbotham Buildings, Goole.

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Regarding, Mary Torr, her Father was John Torr of Hatfield Woodhouse, Lab'r and James Cockin was the Son of Ja's Cockin, Farmer, of Barnby Dun.

The Son, James Cockin seems to be the one buried at Armthorpe 11th January 1824, 67 years, birth about 1757 and there is a baptism at Barnby Dun 22 August 1756, James Son of James Cocking.

Mark

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