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Westmeath / Seeking the Scally's Kilbeggan (Southend / South London branch)
« on: Tuesday 09 July 24 08:21 BST (UK)  »
Yes, I was trying to build in some brief additional personal details onto the earlier replies (incl. #30). But I have loads more.

They were married in the R.C. Church of the Most Holy Redeemer (21 Laindon Rd, Billericay CM12 9LL). Their certificate gives their respective home addresses at the time as:
Trees Heath (military) camp, Whitechurch, Salop, and 2, Jubilee Cottages, Buttsbury - see: https://www.billericayhistory.org.uk/content/topics/people-2/george-saner-the-rhubarb-sheds

The same church had also seen the earlier marriage of George's older brother, Joseph ("Joe") to Frances's older sister, Ethel (through whom the younger couple had, presumably, met). Witnesses to the earlier marriage were Harry Lucas of Billericay (her father, the "Staff Quarter Master-Sergeant of the Essex Regiment") and Edward McAuley of Warley barracks - presumably Joe's army buddy(?).

Joseph fought (and died) with the Irish Guards in WW1, while George served with the Royal Garrison Artillery regiment - and survived, luckily for the whole swathe of descendants he eventually left behind. Me included.

He remained in the British Army long after the war, eventually serving "back home" at the Spike Island military site, where a number of his children were born / raised. Before he moved his family to live above and run a small backstreet store, in a relatively poor district of his native Dublin. The family later still returned to the UK, where they spent the WW2 years and beyond.

I've seen George described on his death registration as a "retired civil servant". But that's rather misleading - and perhaps a result of some occupation / status snobbery. He did later work in the Royal Mail, but he was initially and primarily a military man.

I have (and try to maintain) a fairly complete family tree for all of their descendants. Which may be of interest to a number of respondents here. But it's very difficult to share all that content in narrative format.

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Westmeath / Re: Seeking the Scally's Kilbeggan
« on: Monday 08 July 24 18:01 BST (UK)  »
Following up on my earlier reply (two days ago) here's some specific data by way of a direct response to your query, Anthony.
I'm not sure how much of this will still be new news to you by now, after your searches, or different from what you already know. It's just a snapshot of the Scally info. I hold:

George SCALLY m. (19/11/1919) Frances Mary LUCAS   
b. 1/9/1896              b. 9/6/1898, Bury St. Edmunds
d. 1/7/1966               d. 11/6/1969
(both buried at Relic cemetery, Kilbeggan)

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Westmeath / Re: Seeking the Scally's Kilbeggan
« on: Saturday 06 July 24 16:45 BST (UK)  »
Hello, Anthony! I hope this response finds you well.

I'm a bit slow to this party of yours, but I'm currently doing some family tree research of my own and it relates to the Scallys in the photo you posted (George and Frances, posing with their children). The photo includes my mother, Theresa, the eldest daughter, standing centre of back row.

Would be great to chat. I suspect you have info. on whole branches of the family tree about which I know little or nothing. And maybe I can help you with your enquiries. Regardless of how belatedly I'm reaching out.

FYI, as a bit of background context, I'm a dual-national. South London born and now living in North London. I'm in contact with many dozens of siblings, cousins, etc. from a pair of large families. I'm the youngest of 7. My Mother was one of 8. My father was the youngest of 9. One of my cousins, Kate, has already been in touch with you - around the time of your original post and enquiry.

With best wishes,

DES

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