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Lancashire Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Doris, Rosina Amelia and Florence Boyle
« on: Wednesday 19 June 24 21:08 BST (UK) »
Yes that is correct. Very sad situation.
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Lancashire Completed Lookup Requests / Doris, Rosina Amelia and Florence Boyle
« on: Wednesday 19 June 24 14:06 BST (UK) »
Hello,
I am new to RootsChat.
I am a keen genealogist, writing my Batterham side of the family and I am stuck on one part of my 2nd cousins twice remove, mentioned above.
I have found a lot of information on these 3 girls who were part of a group of 10 Barnardos' girls who boarded the SS Sophocles on 6 November 1924 for Australia.
The one thing I cannot access is their file from "Making Connections" aka Barnardos, as they do not regard me a next of kin. They have acknowledged that as none of these girls had children, and not being in a position to find a closer cousin, this means that their files will never be disclosed.
I can of course read through the lines, and realise their mother lived a very complicated life, but I just want to know whether she "abandoned" her girls or whether they were forcibly removed.
I know this is a long shot, but is anyone here related to them and could claim to be a potential next of kin?
Thank you !
I am new to RootsChat.
I am a keen genealogist, writing my Batterham side of the family and I am stuck on one part of my 2nd cousins twice remove, mentioned above.
I have found a lot of information on these 3 girls who were part of a group of 10 Barnardos' girls who boarded the SS Sophocles on 6 November 1924 for Australia.
The one thing I cannot access is their file from "Making Connections" aka Barnardos, as they do not regard me a next of kin. They have acknowledged that as none of these girls had children, and not being in a position to find a closer cousin, this means that their files will never be disclosed.
I can of course read through the lines, and realise their mother lived a very complicated life, but I just want to know whether she "abandoned" her girls or whether they were forcibly removed.
I know this is a long shot, but is anyone here related to them and could claim to be a potential next of kin?
Thank you !
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Australia / Re: Death - Rosina Amelia BOYLE and her sister Florence BOYLE
« on: Wednesday 19 June 24 13:54 BST (UK) »
Have you searched here?
https://ryersonindex.org/search.php
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Australia / Re: Death - Sisters Rosina Amelia & Florence BOYLE. COMPLETED WITH MANY THANKS
« on: Wednesday 19 June 24 13:09 BST (UK) »
Hello, I am new to RootsChat, and I have seen your messages about the Boyle sisters. They were my 2nd cousins twice removed and I have done quite a bit of research about them. Fascinating and very sad story!
Their mother, Rosina Amelia Batterham was the daughter of Robert Batterham and Martha Ponton. Robert was a bit of an entrepreneur - rather successful really! He joined the military in 1859, then left the forces and went to Islington before marrying Martha.
Coming back to Rosina Amelia, she had the most challenging of lives: she suffered from Measles when she was small and this could have been the reason that she was deaf (or deaf and "dumb", as they said in those days). She was elected to join the Deaf and Dumb Asylum in Margate in 1883 and although her entry records noted her as not very bright, she left school in 1889 with top marks.
She married William Boyle, who was also deaf and as you know had three girls. Her health however was not one of the best and she was admitted to the Mill Road hospital on at least two occasions. Then her husband died of peritonitis on 22 Oct 1914 and from there everything seems to go wrong for her. She also looses her mother in 1915, with whom she lived. She then remaries James Wilkinson, who in turn dies 5 years later of cerebral haemorrhage in 1922. I suppose this is why she "lost" her children to Dr. Barnados'. She remarries a 3rd and last time John Lucey in 1926, who is found dead in the Mersey by drowning. Suicide?
The one thing that really frustrates me is that Barnados' refuse to let me see their file, as I am not, "next of kin". I really just wanted to know whether the children were abandoned, or whether they were removed, as it was often the case in those days.
Would you be connected to them by any chance?
Hope to hear from you soon!
Beverly
Their mother, Rosina Amelia Batterham was the daughter of Robert Batterham and Martha Ponton. Robert was a bit of an entrepreneur - rather successful really! He joined the military in 1859, then left the forces and went to Islington before marrying Martha.
Coming back to Rosina Amelia, she had the most challenging of lives: she suffered from Measles when she was small and this could have been the reason that she was deaf (or deaf and "dumb", as they said in those days). She was elected to join the Deaf and Dumb Asylum in Margate in 1883 and although her entry records noted her as not very bright, she left school in 1889 with top marks.
She married William Boyle, who was also deaf and as you know had three girls. Her health however was not one of the best and she was admitted to the Mill Road hospital on at least two occasions. Then her husband died of peritonitis on 22 Oct 1914 and from there everything seems to go wrong for her. She also looses her mother in 1915, with whom she lived. She then remaries James Wilkinson, who in turn dies 5 years later of cerebral haemorrhage in 1922. I suppose this is why she "lost" her children to Dr. Barnados'. She remarries a 3rd and last time John Lucey in 1926, who is found dead in the Mersey by drowning. Suicide?
The one thing that really frustrates me is that Barnados' refuse to let me see their file, as I am not, "next of kin". I really just wanted to know whether the children were abandoned, or whether they were removed, as it was often the case in those days.
Would you be connected to them by any chance?
Hope to hear from you soon!
Beverly
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