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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Papple / Murray Family
« on: Monday 18 August 25 05:19 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for all the helpful replies. Yes I have learnt not to believe everything on the ancestry sites . The son William from the 1851 census is a nephew and he started an apprenticeship with him. (his mother had died and believed he was shipped off to live with James. I will follow all your leads. The problem is following 3 Margaret Papple's. I can confirm from documents that James had 2 wives called Margaret McTaggart and Margaret Murray. Margaret McTaggart was mother to Margaret Papple Born 1840 and Margaret Murray was mother to James Papple born 1848. Margaret Papple 1840 lived with her father James Papple and Margaret Murray all of her life and when they retired to Saltcoats she went with them. She also ended up caring for her half brothers children when they were orphaned and they went to live with her in 1891.

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Family History Beginners Board / Papple / Murray Family
« on: Sunday 17 August 25 05:01 BST (UK)  »
I have being trying very unsuccessfully to find information regarding my Great Grandmother Margaret Murray. I know that she married James Papple 1813- 1883 in Glasgow in 1843. He was a tailor and that they lived in Glasgow. James came from Kirkcudbrightshire and I think both of his wives also came from there. This was James second marriage (his 1st wife was also called Margaret (Mc Taggart) unfortunately this has caused a problem in that from most of the ancestry sites people just assume they are the same person. I have found certificates for both of James's marriages but both have little detail so I can't find the birth or death of Margaret McTaggart nor can I find the birth of Margaret Murray but I do have her death certificate unfortunately this was not filled out correctly so I could find her parents names. The other issue is information from the census indicates that Margaret Murray was born in 3 different places Newton Stewart, Wigton and New Monkland. I know some of those places are near but I couldn't understand whether they were parishes of counties so then couldn't try to find birth comparisons. The only other bit of information I have is that Margaret Murray had a sister Agnes Murray that died in Glasgow in 1867 this was from a newspaper article. ( again couldn't find her birth or death). So all I have about Margaret Murray is she died in Saltcoats Ayr 1880 and was possibly born in about 1816 and married in 1843. Her and James had a son born in 1848 ( no documentation at all) Any suggestions please

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Benjamin Burgess South Australia
« on: Monday 04 August 25 13:32 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for the helpful information I had some of the information just not the information on Benjamin.I will follow up

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Benjamin Burgess South Australia
« on: Saturday 02 August 25 06:32 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Sandra will check newspapers.

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Family History Beginners Board / Benjamin Burgess South Australia
« on: Friday 01 August 25 08:03 BST (UK)  »
I am  researching the Burgess family from Yankalilla South Australia and believed I had all family members until the name Benjamin Burgess appeared at the death of Emily Marriner/ Hatt/ Burgess. I have found little evidence of his birth or parentage except his father was Richard Burgess. I am trying to confirm he was the son of Richard Burgess and Emily Burgess from Yankalilla.

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Scotland / Re: can anyone help me access records in scotland as i live too far away
« on: Friday 11 July 25 07:27 BST (UK)  »
Use Scotlands People it is a free site to research but if you want a particular document you need to pay for it . I have found it very useful as they had some detailed documents that include parents names occupations and even their birth places which made it very useful to confirm information and not just guess between 2 John Smith's.

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Armed Forces / Re: British Royal Artillery
« on: Thursday 10 July 25 05:33 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Shaun J I did find Adam Russell and Elizabeth but couldnt prove the Elizabeth was Elizabeth Love but with the wedding in Gibraltar that gives some proof. i have also been following William's father John who was also in the Royal Artillery and he was discharged in 1823 but then no trace but can now assume he maybe died before 1830.
Thank you for your help

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Armed Forces / Re: British Royal Artillery
« on: Monday 07 July 25 13:11 BST (UK)  »
Thank you all again . I have some of that information but you have all filled some gaps. They had an interesting life. Elizabeth and James then headed to India where they both died after having 8 children. Haven’t found out when and exactly why but assume to work for the RAJ.
I have had difficulty with the Loves and the documents I have state William John Love’s father was called John and mother Elizabeth but I have struggled to find definitive proof. Hence death record for William with father called William doesn’t match the birth information I have.

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Armed Forces / Re: British Royal Artillery
« on: Monday 07 July 25 08:03 BST (UK)  »
Thank you both you have been incredibly helpful. Particularly the connection with the name Ann Fraquar did wonder why Elizabeth' daughter was given that name also the connection with William Williamson which came up in my research. Just now trying to get definitive birth of Elizabeth (his daughter which I know was in Ireland and where she went once her parents died. have one census of her in Aberdeen with a Grandmother but cant confirm.

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