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Hi Elea5or,

You & I are on the same route then, though it's been a hard one to deduce! The 1923 death for John in Warwick area is correct as the son of Ann Thomas, he died at Mallory Court, Bishop's Tachbrook. I too think George Vaughan / Roe / Abel are one and the same, and he was certainly brought up as the son of John Abel (if only I knew if he was the biological son!) I have yet to find out where the name Roe came from.

I am also a tad confused by the switching of Abley's Green & Scotland St as residences and a seemingly odd combination of jobs for John Abel, father of George V/R/A - which is why I really need to see the Presteigne registers, just in case I have inadvertently confused two separate John Abels. Also I have different possible interpretations of the earliest Abel generations which need sorting - if possible without marriages to support.

Fionah

Jill, I have just copied all the Startup entries I can see from the Bampton transcripts in the library at Oxford. Would you like me to send them?
Fionah

Victoria,

Did you ever deduce who fathered William?

Isabella's employer in 1851 (John Stuart) was certainly a naughty boy in later life - he did a bunk c1871 with money taken from the his elder brother Henry's safe. Family papers say he went to America & was never heard of again. He left his wife & family in Liverpool. We have just established that he ended up in Chicago, where shortly after he had children by a Manx woman who had been a nanny in Liverpool.

I'm wondering if he had played the field earlier.....

John's middle brother was my husband's ancestor Peter Stuart, "the Ditton Doctor" - see http://www.homeoint.org/books3/stuart/italians.htm

Hello Nellie,

John Hedges 1717 and John Hedges 1718 are difficult to disentangle. One is the miser who lived to be over 100, the other the father of Joseph 1756. I believe - from too many coincidences rather than through proven fact - that Joseph 1756 ended up in Headington Quarry / Shotover, and is the same that married Sarah Joiner, both my ancestors.

Have you made contact with Sue Hedges of the Hedges One-Name study group? She too descends from Joseph & Sarah.

Do you descend from John 1717?

Thanks Hugh,

I stand corrected! I should have used the modern -i spelling of Llandewi. I have seen -y and even -uic endings in my huntings.

Actually, Sarah died not too far from Far Hall, which is where her daughter Ann was working as a very young girl in 1841 & which might have been in the hands of a relative. I should follow the tenants/owners of Far Hall through.