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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Help with Thomas Wilkinson/Bridget Duggan
« on: Friday 09 May 25 19:18 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Mabel Bagshawe on Friday 09 May 25 19:03 BST (UK)
Some unmarried women called themselves widow for respectability's sake if they had a child out of wedlock. THomas's father might have been a Wilkinson and she used that name for her son

I thought this could be her death, but there's a Bridget Degan ( in Ancoats the right age on 1871, with a number of grown up children.  They can be found in Preston in 1861. So probably not ours

Bridget Deegan
Age    54
Q4 1874
Manchester, Vol 8d p 147

Catholic burial in Salford - Death 9 Dec 1874, burial 14 Dec 1874 of Brigitta Deegan, of Manchester

Thank you for your reply!

That's good to know. As I understand, his birth was registered as surname 'Duggan' from the image posted above and looking at FindMyPast and then baptised as a Wilkinson. There is a James Duggan born a year later in 1853 with mothers name Duggan too. Could this possibly be his brother I wonder?

Thomas always noted his place of birth as not known which would possibly mean that Bridget died when he was young?

This is a difficult case to crack!

Thanks again.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Help with Thomas Wilkinson/Bridget Duggan
« on: Friday 09 May 25 11:16 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for your replies yesterday.

I think from the birth record we can confirm Bridget's maiden name was Duggan, since there was no 'formally ...'? But this does raise the question why she called herself a widow?

Does anyone have any ideas/suggestions of where I should look next?

I really do appreciate this help as I have been stuck with this line for a very long time.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Help with Thomas Wilkinson/Bridget Duggan
« on: Thursday 08 May 25 13:09 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: softly softly on Thursday 08 May 25 13:06 BST (UK)
1861 census.
Piece   2943 Folio   57 Page number   25

Household Members (Name)   Age   Relationship
Patrick Lynan 61 Head
Catherine Lynan 42 Wife
Savannah Lynan 12 Daughter
Bridget Duggan   42   Boarder
Thomas Wilkinson 9 Boarder
Catherine Roach 24 Boarder
Catherine Farrell 20 Boarder

SS

Hi SS,

Yes that looks like his birth record. And that is the census I had found and address, is 7 Back Smith Street, which is similar to the one on the birth record.

Thanks for your help!

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Family History Beginners Board / Help with Thomas Wilkinson/Bridget Duggan
« on: Thursday 08 May 25 12:33 BST (UK)  »
Hello all,

For a while I have been researching my 2x great grandfather, Thomas Wilkinson, and have always hit a brick wall. What I know: He was lived in Barton Upon Irwell/Manchester area. He was born 1852 (always stays the same in the censuses he appears in). First confirmed census is 1871 as an apprentice cordwainer to the Allen family. Married Elizabeth Watkins in 1873, no father's name on certificate for Thomas. Died in 1907.

I have posted here about Thomas before, however I have (hopefully) made a development and would appreciate any help/suggestions, I hope that is ok.

He always listed his birth location as unknown/not known until 1901 when he stated Not known, England. However, we did come across a census for a Thomas Wilkinson for 1861 in Manchester, where he was classed as born in Ireland in 1852, but no other Wilkinson's were on this census though, so we did put it to a side.

However, the development I have made is that of one other person on that census, Bridget Duggan, a widow. On Ancestry, a few days ago, I found a catholic baptism for a Thomas Wilkinson in 1852, Manchester, with the mother listed as Bridget Duggan. There is a father's name (Thomas) but it has been crossed out. Could that be a mistake or could it mean something else? It also classes Bridget as widow or could be unmarried. I shall attach a screenshot of the baptism record.

Both my Mum and I are confused why she would class herself as a Duggan. Could that be her maiden name or married name? If Thomas was illegitimate, why is he a Wilkinson?

I would appreciate any possible ideas, suggestions or help, but I do understand this is a difficult situation to figure out.

Thank you.

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Scotland / Re: Death record?
« on: Friday 28 February 25 19:57 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: rosie17 on Friday 28 February 25 19:53 GMT (UK)
There is a death for a Margaret Nelson 1930 Bridgeton age 76 years
Mothers maiden name Duncan no other name

S P
Ref 644/1/292

Rosie

That sounds more likely... Nelson could be a misspelling of Neilson.

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Scotland / Re: Death record?
« on: Friday 28 February 25 19:26 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: rosie17 on Friday 28 February 25 19:08 GMT (UK)
Have you viewed the death for Margaret to rule it out mothers maiden name could be wrong perhaps the person  who registered the death was unsure .I would be inclined to take a chance

Rosie

Here is the link. If thedesman1 wants to order the certificate.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/record-results/68055892967c20d86d0a40

Link above might or might not work. But it is on Scotland's people website https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

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Scotland / Re: Death record?
« on: Friday 28 February 25 19:22 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: RJ_Paton on Friday 28 February 25 18:53 GMT (UK)
There is certainly a record of Banns for Robert Neilson & Helen Duncan in Bothwell 27th March 1853 Gros Ref 625 40 / 273.

Searching for Margaret under her maiden name throws a blank with mothers maiden name of Duncan (the only Margaret Neilson that shows died in 1926 at age 28)

Quote from: SkyeSpotter on Friday 28 February 25 17:45 GMT (UK)
Yes, I've seen many trees stating that the death year was 1930. Not sure if you are on Ancestry, but a lot on there state that d.o.d was 26th March 1930, however I cannot find a source and each tree i check refers to another tree.

Do these trees show a place of death.

You also have to remember that often Death Records are perhaps the least reliable when it comes to names - the information is only as good as the informants knowledge of the deceased.

On Ancestry trees they say Glasgow or some say Bridgeton, Lanarkshire, Scotland.

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Scotland / Re: Death record?
« on: Friday 28 February 25 17:45 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: thedesman1 on Friday 28 February 25 16:47 GMT (UK)
Hi SkyeSpotter, I've seen the mother's maiden name, Duncan on a couple of different documents so I'm fairly sure. I've seen another family tree which notes the death year as 1930 but I've not been able to prove as there was no source cited. Unless the entry that you found is the correct person but maybe the informant provided the name McBride incorrectly. The 1861 census shows Robert and Helen as parents to Margaret and Janet and a son whose name is unfortunately not legible.

Yes, I've seen many trees stating that the death year was 1930. Not sure if you are on Ancestry, but a lot on there state that d.o.d was 26th March 1930, however I cannot find a source and each tree i check refers to another tree. I have checked newspapers for around that date but haven't found anything. Sorry. The search continues...

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Scotland / Re: Death record?
« on: Friday 28 February 25 15:18 GMT (UK)  »
I found a Margaret Raeburn in 1930 aged 76, in Plantation, Glasgow, which is 15 mins from Dalmarnock. But it says mother's maiden name is McBride? I found this on Scotlands People website.

Just noted your updated post with her mother being Helen Duncan. Was Duncan definitely her maiden name?

Sorry if this has already been eliminated from your search. :)
SkyeSpotter.

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