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Nottinghamshire / Re: Fletchers of North/South Leverton Nottinghamshire
« on: Friday 30 August 24 10:47 BST (UK)  »
Ben,
No worries, i have double checked your FT and i have found that Clarence Fletcher married Sarah Ann Whitehead, her maiden name was Cleary but she married a James B Whitehead in 1925, before she married Clarence. I will message you again with more updates shortly.
Mike

Hello Mike,

Ah yes, her first husband died but she had a son, James Whitehead who was my grandfather's half brother but he died when I was very young. My great grandmother died when I was 10, so I did know her. My grandfather died 2 year ago.

He said Samuel Fletcher JR was a Railwaymen Signalwomen and he used to stay at his house in North Leverton with his grandmother, Hannah Fletcher (born Hartley). He also told me that his father, Samuel Fletcher SR ran a Pub and a Eatery with his wife Jane Fletcher (born Spowage). Both Samuel Fletchers were married twice I think, both wives died. No children from these marriages and my lines came from both 2nd marriages. So both Samuel Fletchers were fathers late.

Unfortunately my grandfather did not appear to know anything about William Fletcher other then his name. This is who have have been stuck at a road block with trying to establish who his father is so I can go further back on my paternal line (I have not really bothered with maternal lines yet).

I forgot to mention I posted on another forum about a year ago and they did not think it was the single woman Elizabeth Fletcher, I will try and find it.

Many thanks for you help so far

Many thanks Ben

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Nottinghamshire / Re: The Fletcher family of Lenton
« on: Thursday 29 August 24 18:06 BST (UK)  »
Interesting fact Fletcher surname was the most common in Nottinghamshire and Lancashire.

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Fletchers of North/South Leverton Nottinghamshire
« on: Thursday 29 August 24 17:07 BST (UK)  »
Ben,
As far as my 35 yrs of knowledge with family research and the evidence on FindMyPast, Ancestry, Family Search etc. i can most certainly say we have the correct people.

Hello Mike,

Apologies I did not mean to sound like I was questioning your ability, rather the hope the vagueness of it all still left ample room for some uncertainty, especially in the circumstances we are currently left to conclude by my great X 5 grandmothers age at the time of her sons birth.

Many thanks for your assistance so far its greatly appreciated.
 

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Fletchers of North/South Leverton Nottinghamshire
« on: Thursday 29 August 24 16:41 BST (UK)  »
Ben,
Looks like it, and yes looks like something nasty happened.

I have found the marriage of Joseph Fletcher and Ann Hill but no Dob's yet. Marriage is as follows
St Peters church Hayton, Nottinghamshire 21 Oct 1750.

Mike

That's awful, whats the certainty you think that this is our William (1794) as opposed to the 63 year old who died in 1827. I saw this originally but dismissed it due to her age and was not able to find any other details on her. Thanks

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Fletchers of North/South Leverton Nottinghamshire
« on: Thursday 29 August 24 16:28 BST (UK)  »
Ben,
No idea, its the only death which comes up and does not say what church.
mike

Ok thanks its something to go on in future. If I am reading that right, William Fletcher 1794, is he illegitimate? If his mother was 14 it makes you start to think something horrible happened.

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Fletchers of North/South Leverton Nottinghamshire
« on: Thursday 29 August 24 16:19 BST (UK)  »
Ben,
Just found Samuel Fletcher 1824-1905 death records, he was burried at East Retford aged 81.
Mike

Mike, I wonder if that's St Swithun's Church, as it's listed as East Retford.

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Fletchers of North/South Leverton Nottinghamshire
« on: Thursday 29 August 24 16:15 BST (UK)  »
Ben,
I am working back from Samuel Fletcher 1824-1905,
his father was William Fletcher 1794 and,
his Mother was Elizabeth Fletcher 1780,
her father was William Fletcher 1752 who married Sarah Couzens in 1778.
William Fletcher 1752, his father was Joseph Fletcher who married Ann Hill
Hope this clarifies for you, still searching for other evidence.
Mike

Many thanks

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Fletchers of North/South Leverton Nottinghamshire
« on: Thursday 29 August 24 15:59 BST (UK)  »
We try and visit every year to see the relatives. My Aunty Ida moved to Doncaster many moons ago her husband was Thomas Hutchinson, i think he worked on the railways.

What we have so far is that William 1794 was born to Elizabeth Fletcher born Jan 1780 to William Fletcher and Sarah in East Retford, she was 14 yrs old when she gave birth to William. Her possible death can only be two which is for East Retford, either 1843 or 1855.

William Fletcher married Sarah Couzens on 1st Jan 1778 in Hayton with Tilne. giving the best wider search has possible, there was only one William Fletcher that had a DoB of Nov 1752 in Clarborough, Nottinghamshire, England, his father was Joseph Fletcher and his mother was Ann.
Mike

My great great grandfather Samuel Fletcher JR (1872-1939) was a Railway Signalman, presumably in the Retford area. His house is in North Leverton and still standing. His son, Clarence Fletcher moved to Doncaster and became a Train Driver. He apparently drove the Mallard and Flying Scotsman.

Sorry bit confused?

So who would be the father of William Fletcher (father of William and Samuel Fletcher SR (1824-1905)) and what would tree like, sorry bit confused.

I though it was:

Myself
Steven Fletcher
Gordon Fletcher
Clarence Fletcher
Samuel Fletcher JR (1872-1939)
Samuel Fletcher SR (1824-1905)
William Fletcher Option 1 (??-1827) Option 2 (1794-??)
Father? Mother Elizabeth Fletcher age 14?

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Fletchers of North/South Leverton Nottinghamshire
« on: Thursday 29 August 24 15:26 BST (UK)  »
Ben,
Im originally from North Yorkshire, just above Whitby, i now live in Scotland
Mike

Nice Place Whitby, we used to go to the Goth Music Festival a decade ago. Too busy now :)

I am in South Wales now but grew up in Gloucestershire and Bristol. Born in Yorkshire and all my remaining family (just aunts, uncles and cousins now) live in Doncaster. My great grandfather Clarence Fletcher left Nottinghamshire for the railways. I don't think any of them live in the Retford area now. I had always assumed my main line was Yorkshire not Nottinghamshire. Not a country I know to well. I did visit the Levertons about a year ago and typically all the churches were locked!

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