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Hampshire & IOW Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Caroline Gager baptised. 24 Nov. 1805
« on: Thursday 01 February 24 00:00 GMT (UK)  »
That's interesting regards reason of adoption of Fletcher name by George and the trade tradition continued.   George's son Percival (Percy - my great grandfather) and his son Jack, my father, were both boilermakers at Cockatoo Island also.

Can you advise I am on the right trail in that the George Holmes line is then
  John 1795-1865 and
  Samuel 1758-1838 then
  Jedidiah 1720-1800 please ?
Obliged

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Hampshire & IOW Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Caroline Gager baptised. 24 Nov. 1805
« on: Tuesday 02 January 24 22:26 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there
I do not hold any copies of documentation but are trying to piece together her life as a lynchpin to my line from chats or trees I have found on web.
Was being baptised 5 years after birth uncommon ?
Attached from WikiTree ponders with whom she accompanied to the USA and seems it might have been (from your work) with Henry Lawrence from whom she separated or divorced there and took up with John Holmes under her maiden name.

         This is a copy of query post on Wikitree May 28 2012

Caroline Gager marr. John Holmes. When did she arrive in USA. Born in 1800 in UK 1800
 

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Her children were George, Rosa, Alfred and William.  She later married William Fletcher and she died in Australia 1880.  Dont know how or when she went to the USA.  She was married to a John Holmes (or maybe defacto relationship)

George was supposed to be born in San Francisco in 1845. No records available due to 06 earthquake.  I thought it was a Mexican town then.

Need to find out when Caroline Gager (Gager) Holmes arrived in USA. Either as a single lady and married John in US or as a married woman.

She was born in UK in 1800 accord. to her death certificate 1880 aged 80.

Any help appreciated. Thanks

       And later the same day May 28, 2012

John and Caroline Holmes left San Francisco in Sept. 1851 for Australia on "Sarah Abigail" when did they arrive US
 
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Checked records here in Australia for death or divorce of John and Caroline Holmes (nee Gaiger).  The ship "Sarah Abigail" sailed from San Francisco in Sept. 1851 and arrived on Boxing Day (December 26th 1851 to Sydney.  Caroline remarried to William Fletcher in Dec. 1852.   John had been a typefounder.  Checked BDM, Newspapers etc. here in Australia and State Library.  Need to find out where in US they came from.
Children who came to Oz were George, Alfred, Rosa and William.
Caroline's death certificate in 1880 says she was born in 1800 in UK and had 13 children - did the others all stay in the US? or die and were buried there.

Any help appreciated as I think the family came to the US (cant find arrival date) and then left S.F. to try their fortune in Australia.   Any help much appreciated. Thanks

David

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Hampshire & IOW Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Caroline Gager baptised. 24 Nov. 1805
« on: Tuesday 02 January 24 03:46 GMT (UK)  »
I know your post was some years ago but I am on the trail of Caroline Gager also as a possible direct descendent of John Holmes her first husband as I understand it.

All my signals have her being born in Ohio in 1800 and marrying John in 1838.
They had a son George in 1842 and he came to Sydney in 1862.

Have her marrying again in 1852 to William Fletcher in 1852 (a year you mention) and son George went by George Fletcher Holmes or George Fletcher as he like his step-father better than his real father John Holmes.

Do we have something to swap information upon as the John Holmes connection you mention is strong.

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