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Norfolk / Re: Willmerson to Robinson - but why?
« on: Sunday 31 December 23 15:37 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: amondg on Sunday 31 December 23 15:15 GMT (UK)
Baptism of all the children.

Possibly they left for Yorkshire shortly afterwards, and in case something happened to the parents the children would have a village they were associated with, if in need of parish assistance.

Thank you. Makes sense I guess. Plus extended family remaining in the village.

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Norfolk / Re: Willmerson to Robinson - but why?
« on: Sunday 31 December 23 15:29 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Comberton on Sunday 31 December 23 13:36 GMT (UK)
There are many newspaper reports of the attack by Fuller Williamson which took place in February 1878 and he was sentenced in August 1878.

Thank you. The date rules out disassociation then.

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Norfolk / Re: Willmerson to Robinson - but why?
« on: Sunday 31 December 23 12:08 GMT (UK)  »
No indications of illegitimacy that I can see.
As above, John’s father is named Williamson on the marriage cert. and there is a Mary Ann Williamson as a witness (sister possibly).

John was Christened on July 30th 1826 at Stanfield, Norfolk. Father John Wilmerson, mother Hannah.

The only other thing which I wondered about is this:
John had a brother, called Fuller (1834-1912). He served 20yrs in prison for attempting to murder his wife (1881 census is in prison in Portsea). Was a name change brought about by disassociation? I don’t know the date of Fullers trial as to whether dates match up however.

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Down / Re: Searching for Downey/Kelly/Gilmour
« on: Sunday 31 December 23 09:14 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Elwyn, I will take a look at those links.

Both fathers, John Downey (Snr) and John Kelly would appear to be alive judging by the marriage certificate of John and Mary in 1865 at Kilkeel.

When John Downie died in 1908, the Scottish record lists his father as deceased and occupation as Fireman - which makes me think he may have also been involved in the Iron industry (like his son) somewhere in Scotland or England, but haven’t found a record for that hunch.

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Norfolk / Re: Willmerson to Robinson - but why?
« on: Sunday 31 December 23 08:56 GMT (UK)  »
Willmerson does seem to morph into Williamson the further back you go in Whissonsett records! Is that to do with illiteracy?

Is the en-masse baptism unusual? I’m sure I’ve come across the same in other parts of my FH, but what would compel parents to do all the children at the same time?

I don’t know what happened to Eliza after her baptism.

As for Henry, he is my GG Grandfather. In 1871 he pops up as a servant on a farm in Marske which is run by a George Dove. Again his surname is Robinson.
Henry had an unfortunate, nasty death - fell into a hot brine pan at the age of 41 in Port Clarence.

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Norfolk / Re: Willmerson to Robinson - but why?
« on: Saturday 30 December 23 23:49 GMT (UK)  »
Change in circumstances?
Not that I’m aware of, other than drawn to North Yorkshire/ Teesside by the booming iron industry (as we’re pretty much all of my ancestors). Still remained labourers.

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Norfolk / Re: Willmerson to Robinson - but why?
« on: Saturday 30 December 23 23:38 GMT (UK)  »
1861 (Whissonsett)
John Willmerson (Head) - 36
Maria Willmerson (Wife) - 30 (nee BISHOP)
John (son) - 6
Henry (son) - 5
(Ann) Amelia (daughter) - 2

1871 (Marske)
John Robinson (Head) - 46
Maria (Wife) - 40
John (son) - 16
Ann Amelia (daughter) - 12
Hannah (daughter) - 7
Fuller (son) - 4

Hannah is recorded as WILLINERSON in June Quarter of 1864 in Mitford. Mothers maiden name BISHOP
Fuller was registered as WILMERSON in Sept. Quarter of 1866 in Mitford. Mothers maiden name BISHOP.

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Down / Re: Searching for Downey/Kelly/Gilmour
« on: Saturday 30 December 23 23:04 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, from Scottish death records. Surname varies between DOWNEY and DOWNIE.

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Norfolk / Willmerson to Robinson - but why?
« on: Saturday 30 December 23 22:08 GMT (UK)  »
My paternal FH has a family unit, coming from Whissonsett, going by the surname WILLMERSON (1861 Whissonsett census RG9/1244).

The family moves to North Yorks. In the 1871 Marske census (RG10/4852) the family goes by the surname ROBINSON and retains that name going forward.

But why? Why would a family totally change their surname? Did something happen in Whissonsett?

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