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In FindMyPast Nottinghamshire Marriages there is a transcript of a BT of a marriage by licence at Colwick 27 Jan 1779, Joseph Mercer to Elizabeth Horsley, both of Treeton in West Riding.  This is Free to View at present.
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBPRS%2FNOTTINGHAMSHIRE%2FMAR%2F000019369%2F1&tab=this

ADDED: Colwick is near Nottingham, so it looks as if they went to the far end of the next county for the marriage.

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In this landscape "waller" may have involved building and repairing field walls.  Most of the field boundaries on the map were probably stone, often built without mortar - dry stone walls - a considerable skill.

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The Common Room / Re: ALFRED SURNAME - My Love Letter to ANCESTRY UK
« on: Tuesday 22 April 25 20:45 BST (UK)  »
Hello Mark,

I appreciate you have a specific transcription issue with Ancestry.  What I was saying is I don't have much faith in Ancestry's indexing, if their cataloguing of the entire set of registers is at fault because they have not managed to recognise which body created it, despite it being on page 1 of every section, and they have clearly never looked at a map.  My family's entries in the early 20th cent. registers are indexed as being in West Yorkshire, which did not exist, and where they never lived.  Selby was never in West Yorkshire, it was in the West Riding but was a part of the large slice added to the North Riding to become North Yorkshire.

In 1974 there was a legal requirement for local authority records to be archived by a successor authority, but because of all the boundary changes there had to be some agreement about who dealt with divided authorities, using a general archival principal that existing collections should not be split up.  Records which were already in Wakefield stayed there.

Records which were not created by a local authority can go elsewhere.  It depends upon the Archives Office accepting them as appropriate to its present area of interest.

Molly

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The Common Room / Re: ALFRED SURNAME - My Love Letter to ANCESTRY UK
« on: Tuesday 22 April 25 17:02 BST (UK)  »
Ancestry's "All results for Thomas Alfred" is complete nonsense.
In 1869, where on earth was a residence of "West Riding South, West Yorkshire"?

Ancestry handles these electoral registers in a totally ignorant way.  The only thing about them which is "West Yorkshire" is the modern record office from which they have been obtained and that should not appear anywhere in the description.  It happens to be in Wakefield, which was the county town of the West Riding, and so in 1974 it was given the responsiblity of managing the historical records of the whole authority, which is now divided across six counties.

On the first page of each polling district is "XYZ Parliamentary Division of the West Riding of Yorkshire" - not West Yorkshire.  The collection comprises all the registers produced by the county authority, and excludes those produced by the former boroughs which were responsible for their own elections. 

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Sheffield Indexers
« on: Sunday 20 April 25 21:55 BST (UK)  »
Working OK for me.  I think you should contact the webmaster because I know there have been problems with certain browsers, for which there are solutions.

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Norfolk / Re: Struggling to find a Swinger death. Would appreciate some help please.
« on: Saturday 19 April 25 22:28 BST (UK)  »
And the birth of Anthony Swinger was registered June Quarter 1859, Swaffham.

The only birth for a Thomas Swinger in Norfolk during that period was March Q 1858 Swaffham and died in June Q 1858.  They both have the mmn Cozens.

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There is around a 5-year discrepancy between the ages of Arthur E Hanson at death and in the 1939 register.

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Early street map of Hulme,Manchester
« on: Thursday 17 April 25 20:02 BST (UK)  »
See my reply #5 here:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=890832.msg7647544#msg7647544
The names were Wadsworth and Hague, father was a joiner - the one thing he could not change!

It took me back a long way because for 3 years I was studying in the SE corner of the map extract, at the university, and at the time they were busy demolishing everything north of there, acres of brick rubble between streets with no function any more.

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Early street map of Hulme,Manchester
« on: Thursday 17 April 25 18:16 BST (UK)  »
It just happens I have had my own FH research to do in Hulme earlier this year, which involved finding 5 addresses over a period of 15 years.  There is a good set of rate books on Familysearch at
https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/catalog/1132204
but they are tedious to use.  FS says there are two wards and there are street indexes.  Actually it was first divided into two wards in 1853, not clearly titled until 1854.  Street indexes first appear in 1858.  1862 has Medlock Ward mis-titled with no street index.  Wish I had known all that at the outset!
If you want to find house numbers you need to use the OS post-2ndWW large scale series, either 1:1250 scale in urban areas or 1:2500 in rural areas.  They are not on the 1st (A) editions everywhere.  There are a few places where the B edition is not yet out of copyright.

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