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Warwickshire / Re: Elizabeth Harcourt, daughter of Sir Robert Harcourt
« on: Tuesday 25 March 25 20:47 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Bev. Yes! That's her! In fact, she was born in 1448, the thing I didn't know is that apparently she was also married to a man called "Moton", before marrying Bracebridge.

That's why she appears as: Elizabeth Moton / Breshbirge.

According to that website link you gave me, she married John Bracebridge in 1474.

Maybe she died giving birth to her son Simon Bracebridge in 1475.

It's weird how the surname "Bracebridge" changes through time. For example, sometimes it appears like "Breshbirge", others like "Bracebrigg". Is that normal? Can it be the same surname?


1.000.000 THANKS.  ;)

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Warwickshire / Re: Elizabeth Harcourt, daughter of Sir Robert Harcourt
« on: Tuesday 25 March 25 14:11 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you very much for your answer.

It's interesting because, as you mention, Sir Robert Harcourt of Stanton Harcourt, was married several times. He had a daughter called Elizabeth, who was the 3rd wife of George Gaynesford. But she is not "the" Elizabeth (1448-1475), as I know the one who married John Bracebridge (1444 - 1516). The mother of Simon Bracebridge (1475 - 1515).

THANK YOU SO MUCH for your reply and your interest.
Thanks to all the community.  :)

My best regards.

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Warwickshire / Elizabeth Harcourt, daughter of Sir Robert Harcourt
« on: Sunday 23 March 25 18:26 GMT (UK)  »
Hello everyone.
I'm doing genealogical research about my English branch of the family.
I'm quite curious about the identity of a girl that appears on my family tree, and unfortunately, I don't know much about her:

Things I'm sure about her:

Her name was Elizabeth Harcourt, she was the daughter of Sir Robert Harcourt.
She married John Bracebridge (died 23.03.1515).
They had a son called Simon Bracebridge.
Next to John's name a banner says "generation omitted by Commoners" What does this mean?.

Things I suspect, but I'm not quite sure about her:

I think she was born in  1448, at Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, England.
Apparently, she died in 1475, at Kingsbury, Warwickshire, England.
Her father was born in 1410 and died in 1470.

I would really like to know who her mother was.
Some sources say her mother was Margaret Byron, and there is one source that mentions "Isabel Balderston". Who was the real mother of Elizabeth Harcourt? I think her father, Sir Robert Harcourt, married several times... that's why I don't know for sure who was Elizabeth's mother.

I'm really keen on verifying if her mother was Margaret Byron, because if this is true, it means, I can be faraway related to Lord Byron's (the poet) family.

Can this be possible?

Thank you very much in advance, for anything you can find out. You are a great community, and I admire you very much.

Have a good Sunday!  :)

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Thank you very much, mckha489 and Andy J2023, for all the info you got from those papers. Thanks for helping me with the difficult handwriting!

Have a great week.  :)

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Armed Forces / Re: Tracing a sapper who fought in the Second-Anglo Boer War.
« on: Saturday 09 September 23 20:03 BST (UK)  »
Oh, yes. Andy J2022, helped me with that
Thank you very much and have a great Saturday.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / A Collection of Difficult Signatures
« on: Saturday 09 September 23 16:02 BST (UK)  »
Hello, I have some war attestation papers that belonged to a relative of mine.
However, there's a part of it which is fulfilled with a "collection" of signatures (difficult handwriting), and a bit difficult to understand.

I'll post the images here, just in case you can help me to decipher them:


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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Tracing the mother of my Great Grandmother
« on: Saturday 09 September 23 15:00 BST (UK)  »
Hi Nesta, thanks again. :)

If you want to know more about Henry Theirs, for the investigation, I posted almost everything I know in the Armed Forces Forum, the title is: "Tracing a sapper who fought in the Second-Anglo Boer War."

The answer to your question: After Henry ended his engagement with the army, he travelled to Argentina to work on the Railway, and I think, he met Edith there, and they got married in 1910. They stayed in Argentina, where my Great Grandma was born.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Deciphering data from some attestation papers
« on: Saturday 09 September 23 14:50 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Andy, for the extra info.

Another that maybe you can understand:

I've been taking a look at his attestation papers, when he joined the army in 1899.

In a part of his statement of the service it says:

"Corps and Battns= 1st Class A Reserve Section C"

But I don't know what that means.

Thank you, again.

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Armed Forces / Re: Tracing a sapper who fought in the Second-Anglo Boer War.
« on: Saturday 09 September 23 14:48 BST (UK)  »
Wow thank you! I'm amazed with that newspaper. :o :o :o :o :o :o

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