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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Outlier in DNA matches
« on: Monday 07 July 25 15:59 BST (UK)  »
My mother had 100% British heritage and my father had Germanic-Polish heritage. I've recently had a new 100cM match from the UK at MyHeritage. I assumed the match was maternal based on our shared matches as all seemed to have British heritage based on their surnames and their shared matches. However one who shared about 35cM with both me and my new match is Polish and so is everyone in that person's public tree. What could be the explanation for that? Frustratingly neither my new match or the Polish match have responded to my messages so I don't know if they have an explanation.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Polish surname as 3rd witness on marriage certificate
« on: Thursday 17 April 25 23:26 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: BushInn1746 on Thursday 17 April 25 22:19 BST (UK)
Neelawson

Shanreagh at Reply # 1 suggested the British Military in their military documents often state surnames [and places] in capital lettering. I get this in RAF ORB and other RAF records too. Although they give their rank and often forename too.

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Following the end of WW 2 some Poles and other Nationals had assisted the British and were unable to return to their homelands.

Polish Resettlement Act 1947

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Geo6/10-11/19

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You might find this blog interesting on our National Archives website for general information ...

The displacement of Poles and their subsequent resettlement in the United Kingdom, 1939-1949

https://blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk/the-displacement-of-poles-and-their-subsequent-resettlement-in-the-united-kingdom-1939-1949/

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Even though it was 1948, I would still see if Blackpool Registry Office can add anything further, to the Certificate?

The Marriage was by Licence and an Application for a Licence will have been made in 1948, before the Marriage took place.

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Just reading the file titles here are an interesting snapshot, searching the words:- Polish Marriage

Many will be Policy or Organisation type files, but you can find the occasional example in a file, where it changes governmental Policy

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r/1?_q=Polish%20Marriage&_dss=range&_sd=1939&_ed=1948&_ro=any&_hb=tna

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The National Archives, Kew
Catalogue Ref:  RG 48/1984

Registrar General
Marriage of members of Polish Forces or Resettlement Corps: permission of Commanding Officer

1948

Original Dept Reference: 11216R48

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C2451485

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OZIEMBLOWSKI might be there in an official capacity, but feel it would include the person's position, rank or title and a forename.

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Marriage
If a Polish citizen is getting married in England, the Polish consular official might be involved in the process of obtaining necessary documents or providing legal advice, but they would not typically officiate at the marriage.

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Searching Polish Resettlement Corps this website appeared, I don't know who they are, but appear to be a business.
https://www.polishgenealogist.co.uk/terms-and-conditions/

Having said that there is some interesting general information
https://www.polishgenealogist.co.uk/blog/polish-resettlement-corps/

Thanks for all that! Lots of stuff in the National Archives there that I didn't know. I've emailed Blackpool registry office and posed the question about the name in block capitals (and the full stop after Leo).

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Polish surname as 3rd witness on marriage certificate
« on: Saturday 12 April 25 18:35 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: BushInn1746 on Saturday 12 April 25 18:21 BST (UK)
Got as far as I can, but someone else on here might have a go?

Were you hoping that oziemblowski was a clue to helping you with Baranski, lineage?

I presume this is linked to your Certificate extract, on here (also featured in full):-

https://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?p=78460

10th July 1948, The Register Office in the District of Blackpool.

Marriage of
Leo. Hubert Baranski, 32 years, Bread & Confectionery Baker (Journeyman),106 Burlington Road, Blackpool,
Jessie Birchall, 34 years,

With a dot after Leo. do you think that is short for Leonard, or something else, as though he has anglicised his name to make it sound English? Just a thought.

Father:
Wladyslaw Baranski (Deceased),
Occupation:
School Inspector

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I don't know this person or websites, but presume you had found these webpages?

https://oziemblowski.eu/eng/index.htm


https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/oziemblowski/about?srsltid=AfmBOorLQSFMX7p0t41_6pqL6QW3EJ0tVyq7pjqQlHlW9ghQnGVL_OHk

Never noticed the dot after Leo tho it could have just been a speck on the scanner. I have seen Leo and Leon on Polish websites. Thanks for the FTDNA link worth trying an email for that

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Polish surname as 3rd witness on marriage certificate
« on: Friday 11 April 25 22:04 BST (UK)  »
Obtained 1948 marriage certificate of a relative of Polish ancestry Leo Hubert Baranski who married in Blackpool.  Besides the 2 British names listed as witnesses there is also a Polish surname  OZIEMBLOWSKI written in block capitals and no christian name. Can anyone think why that would be?

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The Common Room / Re: Locating people in late 1940s
« on: Saturday 29 March 25 10:15 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: mckha489 on Saturday 29 March 25 01:16 GMT (UK)
I would trawl the newspapers. For example.
It seems to have been named GLENVILLE, but there was at least one other Glenville hotel in Blackpool in the 1930s at a different address. So did the people who had that one move to Barton Street and take their name? I don't know.

1955

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/9970a758-501b-4e02-a40e-cfb7ad41bcee

not theirs in 1935 (or 1939 - see register)

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/a1b41727-d49c-4eb4-a741-16d6f0619417

Probably theirs in 1948. (added to say so far July 1948 is the earliest I can see)

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/e7e7df88-2029-448e-a844-35810a314029

regarding "After her marriage". The birth certificates of children should have home addresses on them.
If you could find electoral registers for Blackpool for the 1940s and 50s that would be helpful too.

did they try and sell it in 1950 & 1953?

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/4fe1f694-2013-44d6-94a3-c8790dd84313
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/976c5d9e-eb0b-40bc-be24-77fc6292f6a3

Thanks for that. Yes i'm waiting to hear back from Blackpool re electoral registers

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The Common Room / Locating people in late 1940s
« on: Friday 28 March 25 23:20 GMT (UK)  »
My mother Mary Lawson was married at 20yo in Blackpool 29/6/1950 to George T Davidson and gave her address as 1 Barton Avenue, Blackpool and profession as 'Hotel Proprietor'. I believe 1 Barton Avenue was a boarding house owned by her parent/s. maybe it was a wedding present even. Seems a bit odd to have that title as a 20yo so I'd guess other members of the family must have had a role running the place. How can I find out when the family acquired the place and which of the family would have lived there once acquired, and if my mother continued to live there after her marriage?

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The Common Room / Re: 'Lost' aunt and uncles
« on: Monday 17 March 25 14:57 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: LizzieL on Monday 17 March 25 10:35 GMT (UK)
Possible for Charles in West Ham in 1939.

I've found a photo of him with the address 33 Wellington Road, Forest Gate S7 London, is that in West Ham. Looks like he's in his 20s maybe

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The Common Room / Re: 'Lost' aunt and uncles
« on: Monday 17 March 25 14:51 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: LizzieL on Monday 17 March 25 11:32 GMT (UK)
Looks like Beatrice died as Beatrice Vaughan, Havering district 1980.

And there is a child on 1939 register

I have an undated photo of Beatrice with a man and a child (abut 11y0?) and the back of it says 'George, Kenneth and Beatrice', are those the names? What address are they at?

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The Common Room / 'Lost' aunt and uncles
« on: Monday 17 March 25 09:42 GMT (UK)  »
I don't know what I'm doing wrong but I've 'lost' an aunt and uncle, I can't find them in records besides their birth and 1921 census. Beatrice Clements born 1909 in Middlesbrough and Charles Clements born 1913 in Middlesbrough and George Clements born c 1918 in Middlesbrough. My mother only ever talked about her sister Beatrice who I know moved to London and was definitely still alive in the 1960s but the others I have no information on, maybe they died in the war or emigrated like my uncle Fred? I'd like to find them so I can maybe trace living relatives. Can anyone help?

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