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Lancashire / Re: Moitt Mowitt Family, Liverpool
« on: Sunday 16 February 25 14:00 GMT (UK)  »
If they are all deceased - Please provide the years of death for the people with question marks & also of their spouses you have named.

We have to protect peoples privacy hence the ruling re living people.  My sister was born 1929 & is very much alive.  I have today been chatting to my neighbours mum who was b 1927

The reason I have put ? Against some is that there are varying dates of death. I’ll put the one that’s on ancestry as they seem to be more reliable. Thsnks

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Lancashire / Re: Moitt Mowitt Family, Liverpool
« on: Saturday 15 February 25 17:00 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, they are all deceased now

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Caernarvonshire / Re: Navan?
« on: Saturday 15 February 25 14:32 GMT (UK)  »
Navan is in Southern Ireland

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Identify witness on marriage certificate
« on: Saturday 15 February 25 14:14 GMT (UK)  »
It looks like Rehae to me which is a USA surname

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Lancashire / Moitt Mowitt Family, Liverpool
« on: Saturday 15 February 25 14:05 GMT (UK)  »
I am searching for any living relatives of William Henry Moitt / Mowitt - Known as 'Dixie'.  He was born in Liverpool 21 Dec 1907 and died in Kirkby 12 Oct 1982.  Dixie was married on 01 Feb 1930 to Elspeth Mary MacKay born Liverpool 21 May 1909 and died Knowsley Mar 1995. They had children:

Joan Mary Moitt 1930-?  married to Douglas Davies
William G 1931-2021 married to Joyce B Kelly
John  1933- ?
George H 1934-1986
James A 1936- ? married to Maureen I Gorry
Diane K 1937- ? married to Kenneth Rimmer
Terence K 1940- ? married to Elizabeth Fox

During his marriage to Elspeth he had an affair with Ethel Kathleen Moss (nee O'Donohoe) who was a widow with 2 children.  This union resulted in my mum, Laurenna Davies (Nee Moss) on 02 April 1940, just 3 months after Terence was born.

I'm certain Dixie knew about my mum but I don't know if he and Ethel (my nan) had any further contact. 

I have verified all this information through DNA, where a lot of the grandchildren of the above also appearing on my DNA matches as 1st or 2nd Cousins.  I have been in contact with a couple of my cousins but they didn't have any contact with Dixie as he appeared to be estranged from his family at some point.

I don't wish to intrude on anyone's life but I have this need to know about Dixie - who is my grandad.  If he had an affair with my nan and produced a child, did he have any other affairs which might have produced more children?  Am I correct in guessing that the estrangement from his family - his own children with Elspeth - was due to him having an affair/affairs and did they know they had a half sister the same age as Kenneth?

All I want is some insight into Dixies' existence and answers to my queries, as above.  I don't wish to form relationships with any half aunties / uncles / cousins if they don't wish to.

Thank you

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Lancashire / Re: Mystery can't find relative after marriage possibly Chinese spouse
« on: Tuesday 24 September 24 15:39 BST (UK)  »
I have William Henry Moitt and the Foo Lee family in my family tree.  I'm from Liverpool

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Don't know any of my DNA matches!!
« on: Friday 01 September 23 07:58 BST (UK)  »
I have sent a private message because I found a ship chef with De BURGO surname who travelled from New York to London in tne1930s was born in Massachusetts but parents from Cape Verde.
You can check.his parentage + look for other DNA matches

It would be a lucky find if he is the actual birth father .

But it shows that given a surname we could find paper trails that link Liverpool to USA and Cape Verde

Wow, thank you so much. This group have got me much further in my search than I have ever been and I’ve been searching for a few years now. Could I just ask though, I’ve had a few people from Massachusetts’s message me saying I have cone up on their list of matches as a distant cousin but neither of them are on any of my lists of matches.  One of them actually has a rare medical condition which my mum and I both suffer from and which I’ve never mentioned, so I can’t imagine it’s a coincidence. Why would I show up on their lists (they done know each other) but I’m on there’s?

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Don't know any of my DNA matches!!
« on: Thursday 31 August 23 20:02 BST (UK)  »
My mother was in a similar position to you 10 years ago
Her grandfather was unknown but of a specific ethnicity and origin and a few different surnames kept cropping up .even when we found his identity we didn't understand the DNA matches because they were all descended from his sisters and none of us had the common ancestors on our trees

When I eventually found the names of his parents we found them on one of her second cousins trees

 It's important that you get the surname
De Burgo on your tree so that it flashes up for matches
I suggest you add your mother's father as first name unknown + surname ' from USA ' with an approximate birth date  1915
Then add his father with first name "maybe surname : DE BURGO

With birth location of cape Verde and a provisional date 1890

This means that any other matches who are doing name searches or location searches will find you .and shared surnames will appear when you look at their profiles if they have a closed but searchable tree

Thank you so much for this information. I’d have never thought about doing something like that. I’m quite excited now and I’m going to get straight onto it. Xxx

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Don't know any of my DNA matches!!
« on: Thursday 31 August 23 17:03 BST (UK)  »
If your nearest match is 4th to 6th cousin, this would take you back about 5 generations. I have a 4th to 6th which I know the common ancestor is one of my 2nd great grandfathers, born 1819.

Cape Verdi was a Portuguese colony.

Ah, that makes sense then. I’m receiving matches and messages from people who are Portuguese American and who themselves have roots in Cape Verde. I have Cape Verde and Native America as my DNA matches.



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