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Scotland / Re: MacKenzie, Lothians, USA
« on: Friday 07 November 25 17:24 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Neale1961 on Thursday 06 November 25 08:26 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Forfarian on Thursday 06 November 25 08:25 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Neale1961 on Thursday 06 November 25 01:31 GMT (UK)
I’m not convinced about Alexander being born in Boleskine.
Neither am I, now. Looking at it again, it could be Ross-shire.

Yes, I think so too.  :)

It's hard to say definitively, but everything else seems to point towards a Ross-shire origin

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Scotland / Re: MacKenzie, Lothians, USA
« on: Friday 07 November 25 17:03 GMT (UK)  »
His death certificate in 1911 says joiner though (I think!)

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Scotland / Re: MacKenzie, Lothians, USA
« on: Friday 07 November 25 17:02 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Neale1961 on Thursday 06 November 25 01:31 GMT (UK)
Some general comments

Regarding Roderick senior being described as a carpenter on his son’s death cert. Not a very reliable source, especially since Roderick junior hardly knew his father. There is no occupation given for his father when Roderick junior married. When James married in 1866, how does he describe his father Roderick’s occupation?

That is a good question, I can't quite make it out!

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Scotland / Re: MacKenzie, Lothians, USA
« on: Friday 07 November 25 16:47 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Neale1961 on Wednesday 05 November 25 23:49 GMT (UK)

I was thinking this was probably the death of Alexander McKenzie, 2nd husband to Marg Young
8 March 1860 -
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6TL2-9HXF?lang=en

This is actually the one I have, it's a bit scant of details, eg it says he's married but not who to. Also, it lists his profession as "spirit merchant". He's listed as a blacksmith in Margarets death certificate in 1864 and in other documents prior to this so I'd decided this was the wrong one.

However... going back and looking at it again I notice that the informant is a John MacKenzie, nephew. And the address is Sheeps(Ships?)head Wynd, Leith which is also where we find Margaret and family in the 1861 census, so it appears it is the right Alexander after all.

Unfortunately the only parents details given are John MacKenzie, farmer

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Scotland / Re: MacKenzie, Lothians, USA
« on: Wednesday 05 November 25 16:56 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Neale1961 on Tuesday 04 November 25 22:11 GMT (UK)
2 newspaper snips from obits for the son Roderick (died 1915 in Dingwall), which give some info about his father.

That's really interesting thanks Neale. That's the first thing I've seen that actually mentions what happened, or his father, who now appears to be a well known Ross-shire carting contractor? Roderick jnr's death certificate says carpenter!

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Scotland / Re: MacKenzie, Lothians, USA
« on: Wednesday 05 November 25 16:32 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Neale1961 on Tuesday 04 November 25 22:06 GMT (UK)

Do you have any birth records for the other children? What information about the father?

Do you have Alexander McKenzie’s death certificate? Please supply information.

I don't have birth certificates for the elder 2 (Roderick's) sons, James and Roderick
I do have for Alexander's children Isabella, 1855 (prev post) and Alexander in 1856, which adds nothing new, but not for Margaret 1852 or John, 1858. The 1855 birth certificate also mentions 2 dead sons (at least I think that's what i says! )which adds new possibilities.

I have the wrong Alexander MacKenzie's death certificate and no credits left in SP!!!! It's Roderick that my line lies through so I haven't focused on this line yet, but it's rather intriguing. ALexander is either listed as coming from Ross-shire or, more specifically Gairloch. The nephew John MacKenzie living with them in the 1861 census is son of John MacKenzie of Gairloch but long since married to Isabella Phimster in Wick. John snr then is possibly/ presumably brother of Alexander (but possibly Roderick).

John's death certificate gives his parents as John MacKenzie and Margaret MacKenzie of Gairloch. There are a few possibilities in Gairloch around that time which I'll need to delve into


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Scotland / Re: MacKenzie, Lothians, USA
« on: Wednesday 05 November 25 15:52 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Neale1961 on Tuesday 04 November 25 22:06 GMT (UK)

1855 birth record. What are ALL the details given about Alexander McKenzie? Age, occupation, place of birth, etc.
Who was the informant for this record?

33, blacksmith, ross-shire. Informant was Margaret, his wife

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Scotland / Re: MacKenzie, Lothians, USA
« on: Wednesday 05 November 25 15:43 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Neale1961 on Tuesday 04 November 25 22:06 GMT (UK)

Some questions –
1842 marriage record. Is there any information about Roderick McKenzie? His residence? His occupation?

Not much I'm afraid!

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Scotland / Re: MacKenzie, Lothians, USA
« on: Tuesday 04 November 25 15:26 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Forfarian on Tuesday 04 November 25 14:57 GMT (UK)
Hmmm.

It almost sounds as if Roderick and Alexander are one and the same.

In the 1851 census i think the 2 oldest sons who later on are listed as born in the USA (or canada) were both listed as born in Stirlingshire. I did think that maybe something had happened in America and maybe a few details were changed so as to keep a low profile back home. There are references in some certificates to Margaret being a widow of (Rod) MacKenzie though and both the older boys marriage certs etc list Roderick and not Alexander as the father.

The answer is out there... somewhere.

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