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MABEL and COMBERTON,
You have helped considerably and I have been able to find a few more records.
They also seem to have had a son with the most uninspiring name of John BROWN!
This might be the boy getting married...
   Lilian L Wakeling
Registration Date   Oct 1933
Registration Quarter   Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District   Brentford
Inferred County   Middlesex
Spouse   John C Brown
Volume Number   3a
Page number   426


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Armed Forces / Father of John Edward Brown. Birth 18 FEB 1917 Death 26 OCT 1994
« on: Saturday 21 June 25 21:56 BST (UK)  »
John Edward Brown
1917–1994
Birth 18 FEB 1917
Death 26 OCT 1994 • STAFFORD, Staffordshire, England

His father is listed by these initials but of course these might get rearranged!
H R W BROWN [before 1900]
Birth Unknown
Death Unknown

there are two possible men with these three forename initials HRW but in either RAF or RN.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / DNA for everybody?
« on: Saturday 21 June 25 21:42 BST (UK)  »
This news item has just hit the BBC headlines.....
Whilst I have yet to properly research the topic, I feel that we should all explore our reactions to this centralized Government initiative might impact upon our genealogical interests.
I shall be interested to heard your diverse reactions, [more wise than my own!]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1ljg7v0vmpo
https://www.crick.ac.uk/research/find-a-researcher/robin-lovell-badge

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GILL,
many thanks for you response.
For some reason, I have become excited by this reality of our history at the cusp of exclusively spoken language and an individual's NAMES.  This significant moment of our evolution is transforming and the commencement of each person's NAME becomes established and solidified into their personal identity kept from their birth to their deaths, just like us.  A remarkable transitional moment!.

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Another excellent topic from the resourceful Michael ROSEN.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002cfkr

Laura SPINNEY being interviewed by Michael ROSEN about her new book on the pre-history of speech communications. Prior to any written records of the Indo-European humans.  Language has such a long development, long before any of it was formalized by writing anything down.

And we worry about the varied spelling of our family surnames!

https://www.lauraspinney.com/

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In the past they used to assume very old people were centenarians and they either didn't check records or couldn't check records. Annie Garvey who was from County Armagh, Ireland but lived most of her life in Liverpool was recorded as being 107 when she died in 1914. She appears to have been born in Creggan Upper/Crossmaglen, Armagh in 1822 so she would have been about 92 years old when she died:-

https://merseysidebiographypages.weebly.com/annie-garvey.html

C
BLUE70
many thanks for this clear illustration of why we can't always trust statistics!

And thanks for including the excellent reference to Annie GARVEY based upon the research of https://www.johngrenham.com

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ERATO,
many thanks for this useful link.  I now realise that this is why we employ statisicians!

What surprised me is the rapidity and volatility of all the different factors in measuring recent changes both in the age and also the sex differences.
'Doubled since 2002' even with Covid but the post WWI population birth rate bulge will be an temporary influence but with the overall growth in total population the centenarians will probably increase.

This page gets closer to my original simplistic query 'How many people exceed age 100'.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/ageing/bulletins/estimatesoftheveryoldincludingcentenarians/2002to2022

MAIN POINTS:
In 2022 the estimated population of England and Wales aged 90 years and over grew by 2.1% compared with 2021; this was its highest ever total (550,835 people).

The number of centenarians has more than doubled since 2002, with an estimated 15,120 centenarians living in England and Wales in 2022.

The large post-First World War birth cohort, aged 102 years in 2022, still affected the number of centenarians in England and Wales and accounted for 17.0% of those aged 100 years and over.

The sex ratio among centenarians in England and Wales has almost halved in the last 20 years, from 8.2 women to every man aged 100 years and over in 2002, to 4.5 women to every man in 2022.

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Occupation Interests / Re: Dry stone walling
« on: Friday 02 May 25 19:22 BST (UK)  »
How long did he live, with all that back-braking bending and lifting, and all that fresh air and beautiful views?

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As we are told repeatedly, that we have an aging population, what do you all suggest, to be simple method to monitor this nationally, the average/mean age of deaths and how many exceed age 100. 

Sadly, FreeBMD are not able to cover these parameters and census records are slow to emerge and are of limited use.
Many thanks.

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