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The Common Room / Re: Born 1909 and still alive - British woman is now the oldest person in the world
« on: Saturday 03 May 25 10:20 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Blue70 on Friday 02 May 25 20:48 BST (UK)
In the past they used to assume very old people were centenarians and they either didn't check records or couldn't check records. Annie Garvey who was from County Armagh, Ireland but lived most of her life in Liverpool was recorded as being 107 when she died in 1914. She appears to have been born in Creggan Upper/Crossmaglen, Armagh in 1822 so she would have been about 92 years old when she died:-

https://merseysidebiographypages.weebly.com/annie-garvey.html

C
BLUE70
many thanks for this clear illustration of why we can't always trust statistics!

And thanks for including the excellent reference to Annie GARVEY based upon the research of https://www.johngrenham.com

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The Common Room / Re: Born 1909 and still alive - British woman is now the oldest person in the world
« on: Saturday 03 May 25 10:06 BST (UK)  »
ERATO,
many thanks for this useful link.  I now realise that this is why we employ statisicians!

What surprised me is the rapidity and volatility of all the different factors in measuring recent changes both in the age and also the sex differences.
'Doubled since 2002' even with Covid but the post WWI population birth rate bulge will be an temporary influence but with the overall growth in total population the centenarians will probably increase.

This page gets closer to my original simplistic query 'How many people exceed age 100'.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/ageing/bulletins/estimatesoftheveryoldincludingcentenarians/2002to2022

MAIN POINTS:
In 2022 the estimated population of England and Wales aged 90 years and over grew by 2.1% compared with 2021; this was its highest ever total (550,835 people).

The number of centenarians has more than doubled since 2002, with an estimated 15,120 centenarians living in England and Wales in 2022.

The large post-First World War birth cohort, aged 102 years in 2022, still affected the number of centenarians in England and Wales and accounted for 17.0% of those aged 100 years and over.

The sex ratio among centenarians in England and Wales has almost halved in the last 20 years, from 8.2 women to every man aged 100 years and over in 2002, to 4.5 women to every man in 2022.

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Occupation Interests / Re: Dry stone walling
« on: Friday 02 May 25 19:22 BST (UK)  »
How long did he live, with all that back-braking bending and lifting, and all that fresh air and beautiful views?

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The Common Room / Re: Born 1909 and still alive - British woman is now the oldest person in the world
« on: Friday 02 May 25 19:18 BST (UK)  »
As we are told repeatedly, that we have an aging population, what do you all suggest, to be simple method to monitor this nationally, the average/mean age of deaths and how many exceed age 100. 

Sadly, FreeBMD are not able to cover these parameters and census records are slow to emerge and are of limited use.
Many thanks.

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Europe / French birth,Virginie Claire LeDuc Superior [NUN]– Birth ABT 1876 France?
« on: Friday 02 May 25 19:03 BST (UK)  »
Virginie Claire LeDuc Superior [NUN]
1876–
Birth ABT 1876 • Resident, France
Death Unknown

This RC nun appears in 1911 census and several Electoral Rolls in GUILDFORD Surrey, but I have yet to find her in 1921 or 1939 or a death for her.
I believe that she may have been a joint owner, [probably with her work colleague, Irene T M TEELING, [below] of a large property in Hook, Hampshire, that was eventually left to their Catholic Order for a Nursing home.
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Irene Theodora M Teeling. Teacher
1887–1965
Birth ABT 1887 • Resident, Guernsey, Channel Islands
Death 11 SEP 1965 • Maryfield Convent, Hook, Aldershot, Hampshire, England

PROBABLE mis-transcription in 1939 as:
1939 England and Wales Register for
Glenn T M Teeling  Principal of Weybourne School?

Any help will be welcomed.

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FH Documents and Artefacts / Re: George Elliot Candy
« on: Wednesday 23 April 25 00:26 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Milliepede on Monday 21 April 25 07:51 BST (UK)
There is a private tree on ancestry with his name on.  Birth given as 23 Jun 1900.
MILLIEPEDE,
I have particular interest in the ELLIOT family surname root for this man and have followed the public online tree of  original poster Philip CANDY,  back to Dorset UK in my attempt to connect with his tree.
Harriet Elliot
1800–1865
Birth 30 NOV 1800 • Lyme Roger, Dorset, England [perhaps this town is Lyme Regis?]
Death 25 MAR 1865 • Fitzroy, Victoria, Australia

My GF also had forenames George Elliot.

Not unusually, along his line there are a variety of spelling variations particularly ELLIOT and ELLIOTT making it a bit difficult to establish which clan might be the earlier root or whether they are ordinary mis-spellings in the Public Records.  Perhaps Philip CANDY has some family clues from his extensive research?

Dr Philip Candy

George Elliot Candy
1899–1916
Birth JUL 1899 • Collingwood, Victoria, Australia
Death 19 JUL 1916 • Possieres, France

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The Lighter Side / Re: Who Do You Think You Are UK
« on: Tuesday 22 April 25 16:54 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: JenB on Monday 21 April 25 09:19 BST (UK)
Quote from: millofski on Saturday 22 March 25 12:37 GMT (UK)
Andrew Garfield, Diane Morgan, Mishal Husain, Ross Kemp, Aisling Bea, Will Young, Fred Sirieix and Layton Williams.

Mishal Husain's family history has already been told in her excellent book 'Broken Threads'.
I hope they aren't going to present what she already knows as 'revelations' and expect her to look surprised.
As I not very conversant with all the many media folk,
I have just looked up this intelligent audio interview [without the film pictures], and so have now settled in to listen to this thoughtful interview.  Thank you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6bmGrfOQV8
The only missing aspect is the generational diagrams [tree] that helps me make sense of her multi-generational stories.

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Ancestor Research (unable to find on GRO)
« on: Thursday 03 April 25 23:45 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: amondg on Thursday 03 April 25 23:30 BST (UK)
Daughter Annie Strauchbaum married Isaac Whiteman 1876 reg Prestwich

1881 Cenus Chorlton Medlock

Isaac Whiteman 29 Born Poland - Cap maker -British Subject.
Annie   24 born Austria - British Subject
Esther   4 born Manchester
Augusta 2
Selig     1
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GRO Index
Esther Whiteman reg, Salford 1877 mother's maiden name Schtrochburn
Augusta Whiteman reg. Prestwich 1878   MMN  Strauchbaum
Selik Whiteman reg. Prestwich 1880     MMN Strauchbaum

AMONDG
Is a real pleasure to observe your brain and your fingers click into creative action to resolve all these puzzles!

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The Common Room / Re: ELIZABETH GOOCH or COOCH 1762–1827 Huntingdonshire
« on: Monday 31 March 25 16:17 BST (UK)  »
MILLIEPEDE,
I regret that I gave up upon this line many years ago, as I was inexperienced and keen not to explore incorrect avenues.
I did make a speculative note below but it is most likely incorrect. :
Thomas Gooch OR COOCH ???
1730–
Birth 1730 OR 1742 ??? • of Bolnhurst Bedfordshire England
Death Unknown
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Elizabeth GOOCH NEE ??? SPEC
1740–
Birth 1740 • Bedfordshire England
Death Unknown

One of my sources in which the children seem to match my line was 'Geneanet'

GOOCH or COOCH, ELIZABETH in tree
Detail Source
Name   Elizabeth Cooch
Gender   F (Female)
Birth Date   1762
Birth Place   Great Paxton, Huntingdonshire, Cambridgeshire, England, United Kingdom
Marriage Date   13 juin 1780 (13 Jun 1780)
Marriage Place   Great Paxton, Huntingdonshire, Cambridgeshire, England, United Kingdom
Death Date   1827
Death Place   Offord Darcy (Offord D'Arcy)
Spouse   
John Morton
Child   
Ann Morton
Elizabeth Morton
James Morton
John Morton
Thomas Morton
View on Geneanet   
https://gw.geneanet.org/lheureuxm?n=cooch&oc=&

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I have a daughter below?
ALICIA MORTON Formerly a bread Baker
1796–1875
Birth 1796 • Great Paxton, Huntingdonshire, England
Death SEP 1875 • WISBECH, Cambridgeshire, England
who married:
JOHN RICHARDSON Baker and Grocer
1793–1858
Birth 1793 • Parson Drove, Leverington, Wisbech, Cambridgeshire, England
Death 19 MAY 1858 • WISBECH, Cambridgeshire

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