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Unfortunately the images in this thread have been removed by the Rootschat Copyright police - no comment on that.

To give some historical context, I've enclosed a page from W. Downing Bruce's publication:
 
Collections Towards a History of the County of Clackmannan
https://www.clackmannanshire.scot/index.php/history/collections

"No.71. - 24th October, 1596 [1594?] - Charter from Sir Robert Bruce of Clackmannan, knight, to his loving cousin, Robert Bruce, millar of Lindmill [Linn Mill], and Agnes Wright, his spouse, of the houses and lands of Lindmill, which formerly belonged to the deceased Andrew Bruce, father of the said Robert, and were near the lands of David Bruce of Green, on the east side, and the said David Bruce's brew-house on the west. (W.D.B.)
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Robert Bruce, a son of Sir David Bruce of Clackmannan had a grant of the lands of Lindmill ; he was probably father of the above Andrew. Thomas Bruce was "laird of Lindmill," 1599-1603 ; he married Janet Mackie, and had a son Adam, born 1597. In 1604, he was served heir to his brother James. The family continued to occupy the mills at Lindmill down to the beginning of the present century [1800]. Mr John Bruce, Sheriff of Clackmannan, who died 8th January, 1815, at the age of 85, was a son of a Mr Bruce, Lindmill."

Best regards




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Thank you very much horselydown86.

Your expertise and hard work has been most useful!

Just to round things off and complement this discussion (as source documents for the Bruce family in Lyn mill are few and far between) I'm enclosing a copy of a 1597 baptism record sheet for Margaret Drysdale with parents John Drysdale and Margaret Bruce which gives some additional details:

ADAM BRUCE baptism 31/12/1596 to THOM BRUCE/JANET MCKIE in Lynmill Clackmannan

MARGARET DRYSDAL baptism 8-1-1597 to JHONE DRYSDAL/MARGARET BRUCE Clackmannan
??? Bruce ...in Lynmil as witness

Also an Alexander Drysdale as a witness to another baptism

JHONE DRYSDAL baptism 8-1-1597 to OLEFER DRYSDAL/ISSOBEL RICHE Clackmannan

I've marked on the sheet what I'm guessing are occurrences of Bruce, Drysdale and Lyn mill.

Best regards
 

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A copy of the Marriage record for John Wryght & Janet Bruce  2nd February 1594 in Clackmannan - enclosed as requested.

Also returning briefly to the Birth record in the first post where one of the witnesses is Robert Bruce younger, could he be from "Lynmiln"

Thanks again horselydown86 and best regards


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Hi again,

Some extra info from ScotlandsPeople.

The two baptism entries on the 18th January are for:

18-1-1595 Baptism of Janet Kerie of WILLIAM KERIE/ELSPET COUSTOUN
18-1-1595 Baptism of James Gorthie of JHONE GORTHIE/HELINE DONALDSON

So we get another K from this which effectively confirms horselydown86's previous point.

Wryght/Bruce marriage record 1594

The Scotlandspeople marriage record for John Wryght & Janet Bruce on 2nd February 1594 in Clackmannan, gives us a second viewing of where Janet Bruce originates from.

Does it still look like Kershill? This would indicate Janet comes from Kersehill, Airth and is one of the Airth Bruces.

Best regards


 

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Thank you very much horselydown86

You're pretty much a 'difficult handwriting expert' in your own right!

It took me a while to actually see "Katherine" in the later entry, even when pointed out to me - that's a very strange K - I thought it was a B.

I agree that the record is very legible, but unless you are actually a proper Scottish expert, the text is largely unintelligible.

In the second entry I guess the witnesses to be Wm. Moresone and Jhone Drysdall and I can see Clackmannan perhaps at the end of the first line.

Thanks again and best regards


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Hi all,

Yet another request from me, for assistance in understanding the text and people in a ScotlandsPeople birth record.

I hope that I'm not taking the pitcher to the well too often!

According to ScotlandsPeople, the image below is the 11-1-1595 baptism record for one John Wryght in Clackmannan with parents John Wryght and Jane Bruce [in B???hill ] and another Bruce as a witness?

Because the writing is so poor, I'm not really sure whereabouts on the page the record actually occurs. I've marked up two entries which I think are the relevant ones, the lower one possibly includes a Drysdale as a witness.

Any help would again be much appreciated.

Many thanks and best regards

copyright image removed

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A link to an excellent website database for sailing ships - ships names, voyage arrivals, departures, casualties, shipping news & captains (the site holds many editions of Lloyd's list for the period 1741-1826).

https://www.maritimearchives.co.uk/lloyds-list.html

This webpage also has links to many other related historical databases.

Also a link to the definitive data source for sea-going ships for the years 1764 to 1994 - Lloyds Register of ships, shipowners & underwriters.

https://hec.lrfoundation.org.uk/archive-library/lloyds-register-of-ships-online

Best regards

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I recently came across a series of old Canadian documents on the Familysearch website and think that they may be worth checking out for those with an interest in Maritime or Colonial Canadian history. They can be downloaded from the Douglas Archives website here:

https://douglashistory.ning.com/group/northamericanimmigrants/forum/topics/1797-voyage-of-the-brig-earl-of-marchmont-with-captain-william?xg_source=activity

Best regards


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Dear Bookbox and Horsleydown86,

Many thanks to both of you for your prompt and helpful comments on this document

Bookbox for your valuable Latin Transcription skills & Horsleydown86 for your convincing case for the letter "P"   :)

Thomasina Depdale it is!!

Best regards

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