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Canada / Re: Wills from Canada
« on: Monday 10 November 25 08:24 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
We are looking for a someone who had lived in British Columbia for maybe 15 years before he died in 1965

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The Common Room / Re: Robert FREW globetrotting priest
« on: Monday 07 August 23 11:42 BST (UK)  »
Hi John This is interesting, that's our man. So he returned to Scotland at this point for a while. Where did this come from?
JC
All these Robert Frews ???

In 1920 there is a Robert Frew (Scotch)aged 52 occupation Clergman,travelling to Constantinople, Turkey. He had been staying with a Mary McKee at 15 Barbadses Road, Kilmarnock. His age is bang on for 1868 birth.

John
Do you have any more information on that? According the The Orient newspaper it appears that he was not preaching in Constantinople between July 1920- November 1920. He was also in the US in Jan 1921. Do these dates match with him being in Kilmarnock?
JC

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The Common Room / Re: Robert FREW globetrotting priest
« on: Monday 07 August 23 10:52 BST (UK)  »
The link posted in reply #5 is about a painting bequeathed to a gallery in Christchurch, NZ. Here I summarize the salient facts that are given there.

Kathleen Muriel Kay (1904-1949) was born in Wellington NZ, parents Rev Thomas Kay and Fanny Buckley (married 1902)

Family moved to London in ~1906

Kathleen married George F Gee (1st cousin) in 1936 in Peshawar, later divorced.

Kathleen married AAW in London in 1947.

Kathleen died, Windsor 2 years later.

AAW remarried, and died in 1988.

His intention that the painting should be given to Christchurch in memory of Kathleen was honoured following the death of his second wife in 2012.

Just a thought but - was it the wrong Christchurch? – RJD was born in Wellington NZ ie. on the North Island, Christchurch is on the South Island. Her family moved to London when she was 2 years old. What connection could she have to Christchurch?
RF does have a reference to working (1925-27) at Christ Church in Mayfair!  -
Do we know the church where Kathleen married AAW in 1947?
JC
According to Albert's probate his first wife was born in Chirstchurch and the painting was intended for Christchurch NZ on the death of his second wife.

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The Common Room / Re: Robert FREW globetrotting priest
« on: Monday 03 July 23 07:40 BST (UK)  »
i love the comment about not leaving anything else to his wife at her request .

ada  ella WHITELY s will simply bequethed everything to Albert Adair WHITELEY
She's listed as widow
* Calling him her son .not adopted son !

it is witnessed by Robert Frew

i wonder if he was actually  her birth son
Robert FREW considers him his adopted son but acknowledges that there was no official adoption.

Could Ada have been Albert's sister?
https://www.ancestry.com/1940-census/usa/New-York/Ada-Whiteley_d9q51

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The Common Room / Re: Robert FREW globetrotting priest
« on: Wednesday 28 June 23 06:55 BST (UK)  »
Yes, that could be it. 55 Meadway is quite a big house for a clerk but maybe he was more of a senior clerk. On the second page his signature appears again and there the first part now looks like the initials A. R.

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The Common Room / Re: Robert FREW globetrotting priest
« on: Tuesday 27 June 23 13:17 BST (UK)  »
I've been tracing the witnesses to the Will.
The first is Colonel Stewart Francis Newcombe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S._F._Newcombe
A friend of T. E. Lawrence. He was in hiding in Constantinople 1917 having escaped from a POW camp with the help of French/Syrian women whom he later marries. Frew might have met the colonel at that time in Constantinople but Frew was himself in prison in July 1917 and I don't know when he was released. 
The colonel gives his address as the United Service Club which was a London gentleman's club for high ranking military officers. It was also the most expensive club with a building on Pall Mall.
The second signature, however I can't make out. The last section is presumably his/her rank or profession but I can't make that out either.
Can anyone help?

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The Common Room / Re: Robert FREW globetrotting priest
« on: Monday 05 June 23 18:36 BST (UK)  »
It's just like the lottery.

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The Common Room / Re: Robert FREW globetrotting priest
« on: Thursday 01 June 23 19:51 BST (UK)  »
Ok, there you go. W.S.L. The White Star Line (owner of the Titanic) had an office at 9 Broadway, NY.

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The Common Room / Re: Robert FREW globetrotting priest
« on: Thursday 01 June 23 14:07 BST (UK)  »
Hi Alan - any chance that W.S.L. is actually W.S.Y. ? I think he might have stayed at the West Side YMCA.
JC

Following on from the last reply, there is a second page associated with that immigration record in 1920. It says that he was previously in the USA in 1900, which fits with the New York–London record from 1900 noted earlier. It also says that he plans to stay for 2 months, that his destination address is W.S.L., Broadway, NY and that his place of birth is Glasgow, Scotland.

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