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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Kawau Is - Gov Grey - TAYLOR family#2
« on: Monday 08 May 23 08:12 BST (UK)  »
No, not exactly. I did know that there were Taylor individuals involved on the island early in the piece but none of the names matched up with members of the family. Of course they could be distant -and unresearched - cousins! :-). Thx for the ref tho'.

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Staffordshire / Re: The MOOREs of Tettenhall Staffs
« on: Sunday 07 May 23 08:31 BST (UK)  »
Thank you very much Everyone for sending through your finds!

I'm not sure I'll be able to address them all right now but here goes....

Firstly you have encouraged me to look a little bit further afield...

Re: Hugh #1's age, as noted his age is reported consistently in registration, parish records and newspapers. The only doubt if there is one, is that the informant was Wm Sproson, either his son-in-law or his grandson neither of whom may have known early history, only what they were told! (Too cynical?)

On the other hand he did outlive 4 and possibly 6 of his children who survived to adulthood!

He was of Compton which makes Job's baptism entry as per Ciderdrinker intriguing and lends weight to it being in the same family line - Thx.
Also links to apprenticeship in 1767

Agreed that the Hugh who died in 1745 was Hugh#0, the father of Hugh bap. 1722 and this latter one is possibly the Hugh who died in 1791. Is that what you thought?

I believe that the references to Hugh of Palmers Cross are to Hugh#2, son of Hugh#1

I wondered about the marriage licence for Joseph M. and Mary Beckett - the marriage occurred after the first (allocated) child was baptised - didn't ignore it as being the same couple but hadn't definitely linked it. Need to look again.



This is from his will, written 1835 (died 1839): bequeaths all freehold and copyhold located in Compton and in Wolverhampton or elsewhere  - without specifying any individual property. Could this possibly be an ‘umbrella’ statement and didn’t mean he actually held this property at the time of his death?   
But estate may have taken until 1847 or even 1855 to settle (as per Death Duty register).

Thanks once again to all for taking the time to look into what you have already. I need to re-evaluate what i have and what you have presented and look wider than Tettenhall/Codsall!

Em

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Kawau Is - Gov Grey - TAYLOR family#2
« on: Sunday 07 May 23 06:28 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Everyone for all those suggestions. You've given me some good leads.

Incidentally, not so far connected to the Rev. Richard Taylor - 'my' Richard only seems to have spent a decade or so in NZ and ended up in Australia. But you have certainly touched on the difficulty in finding someone with common first and last names. :-(


 

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Staffordshire / The MOOREs of Tettenhall Staffs
« on: Friday 05 May 23 04:30 BST (UK)  »
Hi

Has anyone researched the MOOREs of Tettenhall during the mid-1700s and earlier? My own is rather stuck on the 'Hugh Moore line', the Hugh Moore who was 107 years when he died in 1839!

There seem to be other unrelated Moores over time living in and around Tettenhall. I call them the 'Richard Moore line' and the 'Joseph Moore line'. Just speculating but guessing that there has to be a common link to join them if the available records just went back far enough!

So far I have Richard Moore who married Sarah Onyons in 1721 and who had a son Richard, possibly the one who first married Katherine Gnosall (1750) at Wolverhampton and then Martha Lees at Tettenhall in 1757. Junior may have had a connection to WOOLRIDGE of Brewood.

Then there is a Hugh Moore who married Sarah Taylor in 1710 and had a son Hugh jnr in 1722 but who surely could not be the the first Hugh Moore I mentioned with a calculated birth year of around 1732. Because of the continuance of the Hugh first name I'm inclined to think there's a missing generation somewhere but guesswork that it's even the same line. There is an unmatched Hugh Moore who died in 1791. 

Next, the first Joseph appears as father in a number of baptisms with wife Mary between 1778 and 1792. His son Joseph and daughter Hannah both marry into different generations of the 'Hugh line'.

If anyone has any info I'd love to hear from you.

Em

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Shropshire / Re: Humphreston Hall History?
« on: Thursday 04 May 23 08:15 BST (UK)  »
Not sure if anyone is following this thread after such a period of inactivity but for what it's worth -

I know of a John Lees, buried 1769 in Donington, who said in his will that he is 'of Humfreston Hall',  held by lease from Charles Colemore.

Incidentally, the origin of said John Lees is a mystery, being such a common name with many different spellings. And the existence of a second couple John and Mary Lees in the same parish at around the same time!

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Kawau Is - Gov Grey - TAYLOR family#2
« on: Thursday 04 May 23 07:37 BST (UK)  »
Hi Everyone

Would appreciate any insight or information on the following questions. Does anyone know if there still exists any pay books, estate affairs records or similar for the time Governor George Grey owned Kawau Island during 1860s and 1870s?

Also - do baptism records exist for the parish (in Auckland?) which took jurisdiction over Kawau Island during the same time?

An ancestor, Richard Pratchett TAYLOR (origin Staffordshire/Shropshire ~1837) lived on the island from at least 1864 to 1874, his children being born during this time, but I have no idea how he came to be there or what he did while there. I believe that Governor Grey owned Kawau at this time and the mine was not operating then (?) 

A family story passed down was that my ggrandfather was baptised in the Governor's parlour and some earlier research indicated that a pastor from a mainland church (probably Anglican) regularly rowed across to the island to perform religious services.... Just haven't been able to pin down more specific details.

I know that a different TAYLOR family (#1 Family, Samuel, no relation) also lived there at the same time and another resident kept a diary which does mention Richard's family once or twice but understandably without much detail - I've not had access to the whole document only certain parts.   

Any help or advice on where to look next would be welcome :-)

Em


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Shropshire / Re: Taylor and Tayleur
« on: Wednesday 03 May 23 08:48 BST (UK)  »
Hi AngelaSC

Like you I am sorry to have missed the posters of earlier messages especially SH, since I'm interested in (hopefully) following her 'Richard' line down to William Taylor who married Margaret Newell at Edgmond in 1683. I'm reasonably sure my family traces back to this William although the most recent jump is of the 'most-likely' variety.

Basically I'm trying to verify the information given in the Shropshire Visitation about the Taylors of Longdon-on-Tern  and also the Taylor tree provided by 19th C genealogist Joseph Morris. I've recently started to look more closely at all the 1600's Taylors in the Bolas/Tibberton/Edgmond region using parish registers and wills to see if I could link them together but some has not survived for the early period (that i can find so far).

So unfortunately I can't help you directly with the allied Cresswell Tayleur line but let me know if you have any thoughts.

According to Joseph Morris, the above mentioned Richard was born approx 1530 in Longdon, died in Cherrington/Great Bolas, being the eldest sibling of the John Taylor who married Margaret Cresswell. There were 2 more generations of Richards until the last one sired the William above.



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